07-05-2020, 08:44 PM
(07-05-2020, 12:33 AM)Eric the Green Wrote: It made me think once that we could create any kind of utopia we want, if we just believe it's possible. Woodstock proved it."Woodstock proved it?" Eric, what in the world does THAT mean? Woodstock? A "utopia?"
Back in the old days on 4T you and I used to get into it pretty good. I just couldn't pass this comment up.
Let's drill into that. What all happened at Woodstock? A whole bunch of folks got high on a grassy hillside for some days and listened to music. Toilets were non-existent. Food was scarce. And then it was over and everyone went away. Oh, and have you ever seen pictures of the muddy grounds with tons and tons of garbage that had to be cleaned up?
Perhaps you've got some features and characteristics of the event that make this into a sustainable society for some kind of long-haul? My goodness, but there have been "utopian" communities that have done much better than this, and sustained for many years.
I read somewhere that Utopians are the most dangerous people in the world. The reason is that groups of people invariably disagree on the details of how the society is being run and eventually, for it to be a "success," it has to become authoritarian. The leader always says that the authoritarian part is just a transitional stage, but as we know, power is a hard thing to give up.
So, Eric, I don't want to put words in your mouth. What DID you mean?
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