The cancer infecting the political Left

[Bob Butler 54]

(12-01-2020, 05:31 AM)Einzige Wrote: It's  not not socialist because it has oppression etc. It's not socialist because it has production for exchange, which bureaucracy implies.

Socialism has very little to do directly with moral abstractions like militarism, war, etc., though it ameliorates these. Socialism is the abolition of wage labor and production for exchange.

On paper.  In theory.  In reality, the Communist powers indulged themselves with oppression, military expansion, bureaucracy, taking advantage of monopolizing the means of production, etc...

If your theory would acknowledge the nature of the leaders and elites, the problem with the working man having no means of controlling the Party, you might have something meaningful to contribute.  As is, they bury themselves into the theory and denying the history.