We be Mega-3T; we are entering a Mega-4T.

[sbarrera]

(07-31-2020, 06:30 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:

(07-29-2020, 11:42 AM)sbarrera Wrote: I am not so convinced of Mega-cycles either, but I find the idea intriguing.

@Einzige - do you have more detail on your theory? What, for example, drives the cycle?

I am a bit intrigued myself as well, but there is the same problem with turning theory if you do not take into account ages theory.  A lot of the critical observations that make up the theory were taken in the Industrial Age.  Therefore, you can not be sure the patterns will hold in the Information Age.  You have to confirm the patterns happening in the real world and ask if the patterns suggested are effected by nukes, insurgent wars or computers.

As we have had only one sample of Information Age turnings, it seems too early to tell if as long term a pattern as Mega Cycles will hold.  Are the changes observed due to the age boundary or the Mega Cycles?  It seems a bit soon to tell.  

If there is a lot of violence in the upcoming future, you might think in terms of the Mega 4T.  If there is little violence and as a result only a few crisis war triggers in the Information Age, you might think in term of ages theory.

I think Mega theory is a fall out of Einzige being enamored of Marx with his Industrial Age assumption that transformation of cultures requires a crisis war.  I see that as having changed.

Interesting. It would be great to hear directly from Einzige.

Now, what about the fact that some of the early turnings were pre-Industrial? We already have the cycle spanning two different Ages in that sense. They start at the end of the Renaissance in the pre-Industrial Early Modern Age.

The only allowance I recall S&H making for a shift that happened from the early Turnings to our time is that the life-phases shortened, leading to shorter Turnings. That is, people, grow up faster now and so the generations come faster.