Has the regeneracy arrived?

[Marypoza]

(11-12-2016, 11:30 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:

(11-11-2016, 04:21 AM)Ragnarök_62 Wrote: It's not a regeneracy at all. If anything, more fragmentation and acrimony are coming.

Dunno.

Dark, dark possibilities.

-Especially stawk market crash.

You have a point X, if a regeneracy means greater unity pushing society in one direction. That could hardly describe the civil war, though. And the Revolution was a fragmentation of the same kind, between parts of what had been one nation (motherland and colonies). If anything the New Deal/WWII was the aberration among 4Ts.

(11-11-2016, 03:59 AM)Eric the Green Wrote:

(11-10-2016, 04:15 PM)X_4AD_84D Wrote: I think we have interpreted a regeneracy as a positive thing that could lead to progressive change, since in the past we have always looked upon 4Ts as conflicts in which the good guys won, and we got more freedom and justice out of it. So it has seemed to me too. But this time we may have voted for a regeneracy that will lead our nation to ruin instead. In other countries, not as lucky as ours, 4Ts can bring defeat and ruin. So it did for Dixie as well. 

-Kinda like playing poker, right? Sometimes, no matter how good you are. You can get shitty cards and still lose.

Kinda, except for the fact that in the USA in the Millennial saeculum, the USA could not have been dealt better cards. Since 1980, we lost despite getting these good cards.

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Quote:Or else, another regeneracy is still ahead in about 2022 that will be stirred up by the ruin that Trump and the Republicans will have caused. Remember that, as I see it, the 1861 regeneracy came at the end of that 4T, since in reality it began in 1850 or earlier, after 3 dufus presidents. And our 4T most resembles that one. And mobilization for war was like a second regeneracy in the last 4T, which was what really cured the depression (war spending and victory).

-Uh, that 1861 thing just didn't work so well.   That 1T after was the Gilded Age. It will be hard to start a war since that money is for SS and Medicare will be big then.

The Gilded Age was just a typical 1T; the fifties was quite similar; just that we had progressed and the little guy had more. So I guess we just go back this time to the Gilded Age. That's what some here have been saying. As of now, we are on track to go to something worse, perhaps: a banana republic.

I think after Ryan and the Trumps get through, Medicare and SS won't be such a big deal; it will just be cut and people will be insecure and sick. They don't care a fig. You think the landowners in a banana republic care if their people are sick and insecure?

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Quote:4Ts are likened to "winter" by the authors. This time it is a literal winter, but one that will last beyond this saeculum, because of what we have failed to do-- deal with climate change and pollution. And on Nov.8 we decided not to deal with it effectively for the next 4-6 years, which were the critical decisive years. The American people voted for more severe climate change, and that's what we'll get. Dark realities to come.

I think the above will cause a stawk market crash. Climate disruptions are very bearish, man.

A stawk market crash will just be the first event in a permanent depression, except that for a while the landowners will be fine.

(11-10-2016, 04:26 PM)taramarie Wrote:

(11-10-2016, 04:22 PM)Galen Wrote:

(11-10-2016, 04:09 PM)taramarie Wrote: Sigh. Ok Eric has not learned after all.

I think this video sums up his approach to life.

True. Not only that though he bashes anyone who does not believe in what he does. I can understand his anger as well as the republicans anger and reaction. But bashing is what lead to even more division and anger. It is of course not the only reason. But it fed it. I hope he learns that with time.

The Romans did not have a stawk mawket, but l once heard their collapse & the ensuing Dark Ages descibed as a depression that lasted 500 yrs. lnterestingly enough the climate flipped from a warming period to a cooling period. The Dark Ages ended when the climate flipped warm again,  called (creatively enuf) the Medieval Warm Period*