01-10-2017, 10:28 PM
(This post was last modified: 01-10-2017, 10:31 PM by Warren Dew.)
(01-10-2017, 04:34 PM)Mikebert Wrote:(01-10-2017, 01:19 PM)SomeGuy Wrote:Quote:Why would these things characteristic of an agenda-setting era? The Soviet Union was doing similar things in the 1930’s.
The Soviet Union embraced capitalism in the 1930s? Do tell. Agenda-setting/delegitimization follows an Implementation phase, and occurs during the startup of the next set of leading sectors. The 1930s does not qualify in that respect.
Embracing capitalism was a means to an end. Stalin achieved the same end by forced collectivization. The object in both cases (as far as the Leadership Cycle in concerned), was to build national power. To argue that national power building efforts in China is valid while the same in Russia is the 1930's is not, simply because the latter happened in wrong period according to your theory, is same stuff of which you are accusing me.
In contrast, forced collectivization did nothing for the common man, and only served to tighten the grip of the central government.
You have any references for that?
Believe it or not, later Communist leaders - which is to say, not Lenin, Stalin, or Mao - actually did care about the people to greater or lesser extents. That was especially true of Gorbachev and Deng. In the case of Deng, capitalism was a means to improving the lot of the people, especially insofar as it avoided any repeat of the Cultural Revolution, in which millions of innocents died.