Has the regeneracy arrived?

[Kinser79]

(08-05-2016, 12:03 AM)pbrower2a Wrote:

(05-15-2016, 12:31 AM)Kinser79 Wrote: Bob, I hate to be the one to break this to you, but in the 1930s congress was just as divided.  FDR himself was called everything under the sun.  That is a feature of our particular system, not a bug, so getting around it isn't that much of a problem.

In that time it included "Franklin Delano Rosenfeld".

And this contradicts my point how exactly?

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Quote:That being said, I would say that a regeneracy is noted by a recognition that the status quo is not working, and cannot be made to work by tinkering around the edges.  Obama has pretty much proved that.

Obama tried to be the New FDR, but this time the super-rich had not been so ruined that they couldn't buy some political support. That is the difference between putting an end to the economic meltdown in the equivalent of early 1931/early 2009 and late 1932/late 2010. The super-rich had themselves a little Tea Party and invited some angry old people.

Strangely the plans to address the economic crisis were not implemented by the Obama administration. Rather they were implemented in late 2008 by the Bush Administration. Furthermore Obama went with it because he knew that if he allowed the total collapse of the economy he knew the Democrats would never be elected again for a generation. Timing is everything when the Establishment of the two parties are nearly indistinguishable.

Since that time Obama had a 2 year honeymoon period where he could have implemented anything he wanted. He didn't instead he implemented Obamacare which is a give away to the Health Insurance Companies. In short rather than spending his political capital on doing something, he spent it instead trying to capture an industry for the Democratic Party through implementing a giant regulatory clusterfuck/corporate-welfare program which is so complex as to be incredibly prone to regulatory capture.

Strangely if you go and take a look at Main Street America, you'll notice that there hasn't been a recovery. Things are just as bad as they were in '08. Of course that would require you leaving your house, and since you don't do that PBR your utter lack of just the evidence of your eyes is not surprising.

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Quote:On the Republican side you are seeing an alignment behind Trump on the issues of Nationalism, Protectionism and Isolationism.  On the Dems you have "Obama's Third Term" and "More of the Same" or at least that is how HRC is running at the moment (it will of course backfire because you don't get this much anger in the electorate if "4 more years" and "More of the Same" could work).  Remember Sanders may not have a chance at getting the nomination but he's set the Dems on fire too.

With Donald Trump you get a muddle on economics and foreign affairs -- and scapegoating instead of problem-solving.

Completely not true. Trump's solutions are perhaps so simple you can't wrap your head around them.

1. Fix the trade. Deindustrialization happens in countries that allow it to happen. By accepting trade deals that favor foreign countries over our own we may end up with cheaper goods now but at the expense of jobs and business start ups in the future.

2. Limit immigration. Since I know you went to a university at some time, I know that you are clearly miseducated about how economics works. If you get increases in supply of a commodity (in this case labor power) and there is only so much demand for that commodity (IE by implementing anti-business policies) then the price of that commodity must as a consequence fall. And this is only the economic side of the problem and doesn't even address the fact that culture is something one is born into and not something that can be learned in a few years. If you were suddenly transported to China or Saudi Arabia you might learn Chinese or Arabic in a few years but I highly doubt you'd ever yourself feel Chinese or Arab.

Your non-argument is false. The fact is that you simply don't like the solutions he's offered.

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Quote:In short as I've said elsewhere what I'm seeing is a realignment of the Parties and they won't fall on the left-right axis for much longer.  The economic conditions that gave rise to that in the MillSaec are passing away.  Rather we'll see alignment on the libertarian and authoritarian axis.

Maybe Eric the Green has some other idea of how to make that prediction.

Eric has proven himself repeatedly to be a complete moron. I have little interests in his ideas that lead him to his prediction because they always ultimately boil down to some sort of astrology or other equally mystical mumbo-jumbo. As such I expect his prediction to be garbage just simply out of the GIGO principle.

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Quote:It is my view that following this election the GOP will become, however, begrudgingly the party of social libertarianism and of nationalism, protectionism and isolationism, and that further this will be the basis of building the new order.  Otherwise, we will end up in the terminal stages of empire and an implosion sometime around the next 2T.

 
Bunk. Too many contradictions.

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Not an argument. Trump has been clear on his views dating back to the 1980s. Contradictions are only apparent to those who seem to have the memory span of a goldfish.