The Maelstrom of Violence

[Bob Butler 54]

(08-15-2017, 05:09 PM)David Horn Wrote:

(08-15-2017, 02:07 AM)Warren Dew Wrote: I'm far more worried about Antifa, as they have a direct connection to a group of elites ready to take power.  When I see you spending as much time criticizing Antifa as you do white nationalist demonstrators, I'll know we can start worrying about the white nationalists.  Until then, I'll concentrate on the greater threat.

As far as I can tell, Antifa is a consortium of privileged children doing penance,  SJW types from college campuses and simple joiners looking for a rush.  I fail to see any evidence of "a direct connection to a group of elites ready to take power". Enlighten us ... please.

I am reminded of the Nixon White House delusions.  They sincerely believed that the Democratic Party, SDS and similar organizations were being sponsored and run by the Soviets.  The possibility of sincere disagreement with Republican policy was dismissed by their level of paranoia.  Between the habit of Jim Crow and purported wisdom of the domino theory, they let go of reality, embraced partisanship, and trampled on the law and Constitution.  Misplaced common sense and tradition can lead one quite far astray.

I'm used to strawmen here on these forums.  Extreme partisans of any flavor will attribute false motivations to any that disagree with them.  That's what this smells like.  Some will make up lies, and partisans of the correct ilk are disposed to believe it.  The lies get repeated as if truth.

I'm not inclined to believe the worst even of the racist element.  A lot of their ilk could be wearing swastika because it makes their elders over react, not because they really want to push minority folk into cattle cars heading for gas chambers.  Some people just like attention, violence and belonging.  Some will adapt beliefs to get these things.  Alas there are lone nuts and patriotic believers mixed in who take it beyond games.

At this same time, sensationalist and partisan elements of the media are willing to blow everything way out of proportion.

One should take the views of extreme partisans here with many a grain of salt.