The Maelstrom of Violence

[Kinser79]

(09-08-2017, 12:28 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: Wrong. I know plenty of white people who show contempt for learning, who use atrocious grammar, and do not apply themselves to their schoolwork. Those white people would fare far better if they acted like Jamaican-Americans, who typically have less white ancestry than the typical American black descended from antebellum slaves. (By the way -- I got that data from Charles Murray in his infamous -- to liberals, at least --The Bell Curve).

PBR are you naturally clueless or do you have to work at it? What matters is not so much the reality but the perception. There is a meme among blacks that using good diction and caring about intellectual pursuits is a thing for white people. The reality is that these things should be a thing for anyone who wishes to advance in society regardless their color, but perception and reality are only incidentally related.

Quote:I have been in a largely-black classroom in which one student complained that I was asking black kids to 'act white'.

Congratulations, you have met a nigger. About 1/3rd of all black persons are niggers just like about 1/3rd of all white persons are white trash. As with whites there is a civil war amongst black persons, it is a war between black people and niggers and niggers have got to go.

I suggest seeing the Stand Up Philosopher Chris Rock's dissertation on the subject.

Quote:I told them what losers some white people are.

Wrong strategy to use. Niggers believe that because some white people are fucked up that they can be fucked up too. Again Chris Rock explains this in his dissertation.

Quote:Black people just can't get away with drugs as white people can.

Not quite correct. Drug use patterns among whites and blacks are quite different. I'm not proud of saying this but I've used drugs (principly marijuana but some other things too) with both blacks and whites. It is far more likely for blacks to smoke their blunts on the street corner stinking the place up with marijuana smoke smell and attracting the attention of the police, meanwhile whites will do the same exact thing at their house and not attract the attention of the police. Often where something is done is more important than what is done.

Quote:Achievement does not depend upon skin color. We have Neil deGrasse Tyson. We have Colin Powell. We have Barack Obama. We had Ralph Bunche and Martin Luther King. We had Maya Angelou. Need I go further? 

All of that is true, but I highly doubt you reached him. See he has a problem no white man could possibly address--he is a nigger and as much as he hates black people who "act white" he hates white people far more. Quite honestly I wouldn't be surprised if what you said to him went in one ear and out the other. Honestly I would love to find fault with you for that, but I can't.

Quote:Every language has its own standard of grammar, and one adheres closely to that standard or one is looked upon as a loser. It has nothing to do with race. Cajun French (which is not a standardized language) does not get respect in France, Quebec, Haiti, or Francophone parts of Africa.

Actually Arcadian French is more or less the same as Quebecois, though it isn't really recognized in metropolitan France as both Quebecois and Arcadian French are very closely related both being derived from 17th century provincial dialect. Haitian Creole should be considered its own language entirely.

Quote:For a black person, using proper grammar associated with any mainstream dialect is one of the cheapest ways to get respect.

True, but not why most black people who use proper grammar use it. To be perfectly honest I Southern Dialect, and use it with proper grammar and diction because it makes for more effective communication. As far as I'm concerned anyone who would disrespect me on the basis of dialect is not worth concerning myself with.

Quote:"Ebonics" does not get respect, and it won't get respect until we start seeing literary masterpieces in it.

I wouldn't hold my breath on that one. Anyone capable of writing such a thing would likely use standard English anyway, except of course for dialog where there is greater toleration for use of non-standard dialect.

Quote: Was W.E.B. DuBois "The Man" for using standard English grammar? I think not.

Neither was Malcolm X, but as I said reality is less important than the perception in this case.

Quote:Since almost all Americans have practically the same syllabus in school to K-8, we might as well have the same standards. "My great-great grandmother was a slave and my great-great grandfather was a white man who raped her" is not an excuse for bad grammar.

No it is not, but it is the white liberals who insist on pushing the victim narrative. If anything this narrative is most destructive amongst blacks. But then again I don't think you'll ever grasp a functional understanding of how pernicious the soft-bigotry of low expectations is.