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How I'll react to the new prophets when they try to blame me
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I will refuse to be considered to be someone who was for censorship in the future. If some punk snot nosed kid in the future blames me for it for the year I was born in I'll chew them out and say how it took far more bravery to be me and against censorship in an era where people were for censorship and how they weren't brave because they were in the majority. I would chew him out majorly until he apologized to me otherwise I'd keep ranting and raving and pissing the idiot off. Also I'm not interested in the music right now so I refuse to be blamed for it. If another snot nosed kid blames me for it I too will chew them out on how they're ingrates and that back then I had to search for music while they didn't. Believe me, I will give the future generation a piece of my mind if they decide to blame me. Since I'm against the narrative of my so-called generation and will be blamed by future generations I'll have a lot of people I will have to chew out, spit, and leave in the dust. I don't care if it's in my generation or some generation before or after me. Nobody blames me or tells me what to think without negative consequences. It takes far more bravery to be me, an anti censorship person in a time where censorship is lauded than to be anti censorship when it's a safe opinion. I for one refuse to take any form of disrespect. How do you think they'll react to this? 
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#2
Anyways I was searching for the underground for years. I'm not about to let some snot nosed kid lecture ME on how I created the 2010s culture and how their culture is so damn superior. I've argued with many and don't care how many people thumbs me down or get pissed off. It's just noise in my head. I don't care if people hate on me as long as they can't defeat me I can do anything I want. If someone my age wants to censor me I'll be hostile. If some other generation blames me or groups me in with censorship I'll be hostile. They started it so they left me no choice but to be blunt and abrasive.
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#3
It's when those kids start adopting hippie-like lifestyles and start burning their breeches and mooning their elders as an expression of freedom that they will no longer be snot-nosed kids, but instead irreverent young adults too big to spank.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist  but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.


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(04-28-2019, 11:52 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: It's when those kids start adopting hippie-like lifestyles and start burning their breeches and mooning their elders as an expression of freedom that they will no longer be snot-nosed kids, but instead irreverent young adults too big to spank.

I don't care if they're too old to spank; nobody's too old to be yelled at or talked down to. I'll also say I was more free of social norms than they were because I actually stood up to anti free speech as a loner, which is braver than doing it as a group. It's not fair that I as a pro free speech pro freedom person am going to be blamed for lack of freedom when I am the victim. I'll give people 2 choices; either stop blaming me as a person or I will continue to be angry and belligerent and non cooperative. I have an extremely firm will; I have the Asperger's laser focus. I have an ultimatum to people, either don't suppress my free speech or individual needs or I will be a mean person. The other ultimatum is either don't blame me as an individual for the failings of the culture or lack of free speech or I will become a mean person. If people want me to play nice they need to at least cooperate with me; otherwise, whatever they get is coming to them. I don't believe in the mumbo jumbo of "It makes you just as bad as them." I'm giving them two options; either be considerate of me or have a very unpleasant time dealing with my attitude. My attitude is entirely justified. It's like an anti Taliban anti Jihadist from Afghanistan being blamed for Islamacism, being persecuted by his own country and other nations at the same time. I don't give a shit. If someone disrespects me I will be twice as rude back. They'll be used to having parents that are calm with them while they act this way. They won't be used to dealing with someone as socially unhinged, stubborn, and angry as I am. I don't back down to social pressure or ridicule. I'm like the energizer bunny; I keep going and going and going and I don't believe in "letting things go" or walking away.
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(04-29-2019, 12:22 AM)AspieMillennial Wrote:
(04-28-2019, 11:52 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: It's when those kids start adopting hippie-like lifestyles and start burning their breeches and mooning their elders as an expression of freedom that they will no longer be snot-nosed kids, but instead irreverent young adults too big to spank.

I don't care if they're too old to spank; nobody's too old to be yelled at or talked down to. I'll also say I was more free of social norms than they were because I actually stood up to anti free speech as a loner, which is braver than doing it as a group. It's not fair that I as a pro free speech pro freedom person am going to be blamed for lack of freedom when I am the victim. I'll give people 2 choices; either stop blaming me as a person or I will continue to be angry and belligerent and non cooperative. I have an extremely firm will; I have the Asperger's laser focus. I have an ultimatum to people, either don't suppress my free speech or individual needs or I will be a mean person. The other ultimatum is either don't blame me as an individual for the failings of the culture or lack of free speech or I will become a mean person. If people want me to play nice they need to at least cooperate with me; otherwise, whatever they get is coming to them. I don't believe in the mumbo jumbo of "It makes you just as bad as them." I'm giving them two options; either be considerate of me or have a very unpleasant time dealing with my attitude. My attitude is entirely justified. It's like an anti Taliban anti Jihadist from Afghanistan being blamed for Islamacism, being persecuted by his own country and other nations at the same time. I don't give a shit. If someone disrespects me I will be twice as rude back. They'll be used to having parents that are calm with them while they act this way. They won't be used to dealing with someone as socially unhinged, stubborn, and angry as I am. I don't back down to social pressure or ridicule. I'm like the energizer bunny; I keep going and going and going and I don't believe in "letting things go" or walking away.

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(04-29-2019, 08:08 PM)Marypoza Wrote:
(04-29-2019, 12:22 AM)AspieMillennial Wrote:
(04-28-2019, 11:52 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: It's when those kids start adopting hippie-like lifestyles and start burning their breeches and mooning their elders as an expression of freedom that they will no longer be snot-nosed kids, but instead irreverent young adults too big to spank.

I don't care if they're too old to spank; nobody's too old to be yelled at or talked down to. I'll also say I was more free of social norms than they were because I actually stood up to anti free speech as a loner, which is braver than doing it as a group. It's not fair that I as a pro free speech pro freedom person am going to be blamed for lack of freedom when I am the victim. I'll give people 2 choices; either stop blaming me as a person or I will continue to be angry and belligerent and non cooperative. I have an extremely firm will; I have the Asperger's laser focus. I have an ultimatum to people, either don't suppress my free speech or individual needs or I will be a mean person. The other ultimatum is either don't blame me as an individual for the failings of the culture or lack of free speech or I will become a mean person. If people want me to play nice they need to at least cooperate with me; otherwise, whatever they get is coming to them. I don't believe in the mumbo jumbo of "It makes you just as bad as them." I'm giving them two options; either be considerate of me or have a very unpleasant time dealing with my attitude. My attitude is entirely justified. It's like an anti Taliban anti Jihadist from Afghanistan being blamed for Islamacism, being persecuted by his own country and other nations at the same time. I don't give a shit. If someone disrespects me I will be twice as rude back. They'll be used to having parents that are calm with them while they act this way. They won't be used to dealing with someone as socially unhinged, stubborn, and angry as I am. I don't back down to social pressure or ridicule. I'm like the energizer bunny; I keep going and going and going and I don't believe in "letting things go" or walking away.

-- dude. You need 2 take a chill pill

I don't think it's fair that the newer generations will get to have more freedom of expression than I do without having to face the consequences I did where I had to be brave to stick out yet still be blamed when I was the one persecuted. It's not fair so I shouldn't have to take it.
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(04-28-2019, 05:24 PM)AspieMillennial Wrote: I will refuse to be considered to be someone who was for censorship in the future. If some punk snot nosed kid in the future blames me for it for the year I was born in I'll chew them out and say how it took far more bravery to be me and against censorship in an era where people were for censorship and how they weren't brave because they were in the majority. I would chew him out majorly until he apologized to me otherwise I'd keep ranting and raving and pissing the idiot off. Also I'm not interested in the music right now so I refuse to be blamed for it. If another snot nosed kid blames me for it I too will chew them out on how they're ingrates and that back then I had to search for music while they didn't. Believe me, I will give the future generation a piece of my mind if they decide to blame me. Since I'm against the narrative of my so-called generation and will be blamed by future generations I'll have a lot of people I will have to chew out, spit, and leave in the dust. I don't care if it's in my generation or some generation before or after me. Nobody blames me or tells me what to think without negative consequences. It takes far more bravery to be me, an anti censorship person in a time where censorship is lauded than to be anti censorship when it's a safe opinion. I for one refuse to take any form of disrespect. How do you think they'll react to this? 

I think they will further disrespect us if they have Millennials treating them with hate. Hate does nothing but divide people further. We can explain to them calmly what happened in our day and how it has impacted us and what we tried to do about it. Talk not hate will help bring about understanding. 
~a fellow Millennial
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#9
I advise watching some Teal Swan videos as that is very sad. I can see you have been hurt in your past and you have cptsd. I hope you find some inner understanding and some peace. I have been in your place and still am to a certain degree. But hate only eats you up inside and in the end it will destroy you. I hope for only the very best for you in your future.
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(04-29-2019, 09:57 PM)taramarie Wrote:
(04-28-2019, 05:24 PM)AspieMillennial Wrote: I will refuse to be considered to be someone who was for censorship in the future. If some punk snot nosed kid in the future blames me for it for the year I was born in I'll chew them out and say how it took far more bravery to be me and against censorship in an era where people were for censorship and how they weren't brave because they were in the majority. I would chew him out majorly until he apologized to me otherwise I'd keep ranting and raving and pissing the idiot off. Also I'm not interested in the music right now so I refuse to be blamed for it. If another snot nosed kid blames me for it I too will chew them out on how they're ingrates and that back then I had to search for music while they didn't. Believe me, I will give the future generation a piece of my mind if they decide to blame me. Since I'm against the narrative of my so-called generation and will be blamed by future generations I'll have a lot of people I will have to chew out, spit, and leave in the dust. I don't care if it's in my generation or some generation before or after me. Nobody blames me or tells me what to think without negative consequences. It takes far more bravery to be me, an anti censorship person in a time where censorship is lauded than to be anti censorship when it's a safe opinion. I for one refuse to take any form of disrespect. How do you think they'll react to this? 

I think they will further disrespect us if they have Millennials treating them with hate. Hate does nothing but divide people further. We can explain to them calmly what happened in our day and how it has impacted us and what we tried to do about it. Talk not hate will help bring about understanding. 
~a fellow Millennial

In my experience, people are far more disrespectful to you when you're docile to them after they treat you badly. People only respect people that stand up for themselves because if you don't respect yourself who will? You need to demand respect in this world because respect isn't simply going to happen. Also I see the disrespect as going to happen either way. They have no reason to stop disrespecting if you just make excuses and plead for understanding. I'm pro free speech and will be blamed for being anti free speech. I think this is unfair so I have no choice but to fight it. You may say understanding takes time but I don't have 20 years to wait for some other cultural shift to happen when I'll almost be dead anyways.
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(04-29-2019, 10:07 PM)AspieMillennial Wrote:
(04-29-2019, 09:57 PM)taramarie Wrote:
(04-28-2019, 05:24 PM)AspieMillennial Wrote: I will refuse to be considered to be someone who was for censorship in the future. If some punk snot nosed kid in the future blames me for it for the year I was born in I'll chew them out and say how it took far more bravery to be me and against censorship in an era where people were for censorship and how they weren't brave because they were in the majority. I would chew him out majorly until he apologized to me otherwise I'd keep ranting and raving and pissing the idiot off. Also I'm not interested in the music right now so I refuse to be blamed for it. If another snot nosed kid blames me for it I too will chew them out on how they're ingrates and that back then I had to search for music while they didn't. Believe me, I will give the future generation a piece of my mind if they decide to blame me. Since I'm against the narrative of my so-called generation and will be blamed by future generations I'll have a lot of people I will have to chew out, spit, and leave in the dust. I don't care if it's in my generation or some generation before or after me. Nobody blames me or tells me what to think without negative consequences. It takes far more bravery to be me, an anti censorship person in a time where censorship is lauded than to be anti censorship when it's a safe opinion. I for one refuse to take any form of disrespect. How do you think they'll react to this? 

I think they will further disrespect us if they have Millennials treating them with hate. Hate does nothing but divide people further. We can explain to them calmly what happened in our day and how it has impacted us and what we tried to do about it. Talk not hate will help bring about understanding. 
~a fellow Millennial

In my experience, people are far more disrespectful to you when you're docile to them after they treat you badly. People only respect people that stand up for themselves because if you don't respect yourself who will? You need to demand respect in this world because respect isn't simply going to happen. Also I see the disrespect as going to happen either way. They have no reason to stop disrespecting if you just make excuses and plead for understanding. I'm pro free speech and will be blamed for being anti free speech. I think this is unfair so I have no choice but to fight it. You may say understanding takes time but I don't have 20 years to wait for some other cultural shift to happen when I'll almost be dead anyways.
There is a difference between being a push over and being pushy. People do not respect either one. I am a security guard at present. I have been trained in how to get across a message while de-escalating a problem. There is a lovely balance in between both extremes which can and does work and in the chance that your life literally is in danger due to rage or they are beyond a point of being able to talk to them then and only then more force is needed but NEVER in anger. Only standing your ground but staying in the realm of reason.
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(04-29-2019, 10:25 PM)taramarie Wrote:
(04-29-2019, 10:07 PM)AspieMillennial Wrote:
(04-29-2019, 09:57 PM)taramarie Wrote:
(04-28-2019, 05:24 PM)AspieMillennial Wrote: I will refuse to be considered to be someone who was for censorship in the future. If some punk snot nosed kid in the future blames me for it for the year I was born in I'll chew them out and say how it took far more bravery to be me and against censorship in an era where people were for censorship and how they weren't brave because they were in the majority. I would chew him out majorly until he apologized to me otherwise I'd keep ranting and raving and pissing the idiot off. Also I'm not interested in the music right now so I refuse to be blamed for it. If another snot nosed kid blames me for it I too will chew them out on how they're ingrates and that back then I had to search for music while they didn't. Believe me, I will give the future generation a piece of my mind if they decide to blame me. Since I'm against the narrative of my so-called generation and will be blamed by future generations I'll have a lot of people I will have to chew out, spit, and leave in the dust. I don't care if it's in my generation or some generation before or after me. Nobody blames me or tells me what to think without negative consequences. It takes far more bravery to be me, an anti censorship person in a time where censorship is lauded than to be anti censorship when it's a safe opinion. I for one refuse to take any form of disrespect. How do you think they'll react to this? 

I think they will further disrespect us if they have Millennials treating them with hate. Hate does nothing but divide people further. We can explain to them calmly what happened in our day and how it has impacted us and what we tried to do about it. Talk not hate will help bring about understanding. 
~a fellow Millennial

In my experience, people are far more disrespectful to you when you're docile to them after they treat you badly. People only respect people that stand up for themselves because if you don't respect yourself who will? You need to demand respect in this world because respect isn't simply going to happen. Also I see the disrespect as going to happen either way. They have no reason to stop disrespecting if you just make excuses and plead for understanding. I'm pro free speech and will be blamed for being anti free speech. I think this is unfair so I have no choice but to fight it. You may say understanding takes time but I don't have 20 years to wait for some other cultural shift to happen when I'll almost be dead anyways.
There is a difference between being a push over and being pushy. People do not respect either one. I am a security guard at present. I have been trained in how to get across a message while de-escalating a problem. There is a lovely balance in between both extremes which can and does work and in the chance that your life literally is in danger due to rage or they are beyond a point of being able to talk to them then and only then more force is needed but NEVER in anger. Only standing your ground but staying in the realm of reason.

If someone is hostile to you or the entire group or society disagrees with your views, how else do you make yourself heard without getting loud? If you're vastly outnumbered it could be your only option to be heard. For some people calm discussion works but for others? It doesn't work; they just walk all over you. It all depends on how reasonable the personality type you're dealing with is. In my experience there are certain people in which talking it out doesn't work.
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Btw anger is helpful to see there is in fact a problem and pushes to solve it. But it should never be to burn down to the point of destroying those who happen to just be caught in the hell fire. Feel anger, but find the reason for the anger. Why you feel threatened. What you are fearful of and then once you have your inner answers, find the fine balance to reason. It does work. It literally is in my job description. I practice this every day as a guard with MANY different people.
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(04-29-2019, 10:31 PM)AspieMillennial Wrote:
(04-29-2019, 10:25 PM)taramarie Wrote:
(04-29-2019, 10:07 PM)AspieMillennial Wrote:
(04-29-2019, 09:57 PM)taramarie Wrote:
(04-28-2019, 05:24 PM)AspieMillennial Wrote: I will refuse to be considered to be someone who was for censorship in the future. If some punk snot nosed kid in the future blames me for it for the year I was born in I'll chew them out and say how it took far more bravery to be me and against censorship in an era where people were for censorship and how they weren't brave because they were in the majority. I would chew him out majorly until he apologized to me otherwise I'd keep ranting and raving and pissing the idiot off. Also I'm not interested in the music right now so I refuse to be blamed for it. If another snot nosed kid blames me for it I too will chew them out on how they're ingrates and that back then I had to search for music while they didn't. Believe me, I will give the future generation a piece of my mind if they decide to blame me. Since I'm against the narrative of my so-called generation and will be blamed by future generations I'll have a lot of people I will have to chew out, spit, and leave in the dust. I don't care if it's in my generation or some generation before or after me. Nobody blames me or tells me what to think without negative consequences. It takes far more bravery to be me, an anti censorship person in a time where censorship is lauded than to be anti censorship when it's a safe opinion. I for one refuse to take any form of disrespect. How do you think they'll react to this? 

I think they will further disrespect us if they have Millennials treating them with hate. Hate does nothing but divide people further. We can explain to them calmly what happened in our day and how it has impacted us and what we tried to do about it. Talk not hate will help bring about understanding. 
~a fellow Millennial

In my experience, people are far more disrespectful to you when you're docile to them after they treat you badly. People only respect people that stand up for themselves because if you don't respect yourself who will? You need to demand respect in this world because respect isn't simply going to happen. Also I see the disrespect as going to happen either way. They have no reason to stop disrespecting if you just make excuses and plead for understanding. I'm pro free speech and will be blamed for being anti free speech. I think this is unfair so I have no choice but to fight it. You may say understanding takes time but I don't have 20 years to wait for some other cultural shift to happen when I'll almost be dead anyways.
There is a difference between being a push over and being pushy. People do not respect either one. I am a security guard at present. I have been trained in how to get across a message while de-escalating a problem. There is a lovely balance in between both extremes which can and does work and in the chance that your life literally is in danger due to rage or they are beyond a point of being able to talk to them then and only then more force is needed but NEVER in anger. Only standing your ground but staying in the realm of reason.

If someone is hostile to you or the entire group or society disagrees with your views, how else do you make yourself heard without getting loud? If you're vastly outnumbered it could be your only option to be heard.
Do their opinions really matter in the end? Or does staying true to yourself and to those willing to listen matter more? You cant force people nor can they force you. You can say your piece, stay true to what is right to you if it is right for you and not let the threat invade your peace that it is right for you. Those who are willing to listen to your truth when it is said in reason and in a reasonable tone will hear you. Truth does not need to be shouted in anger. But it does need to be heard. Thing is its up to THEM to hear us or not.
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How do you deal with the bully personality type that doesn't respond to reason?
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(04-29-2019, 10:36 PM)taramarie Wrote: Do their opinions really matter in the end? Or does staying true to yourself and to those willing to listen matter more? You cant force people nor can they force you. You can say your piece, stay true to what is right to you if it is right for you and not let the threat invade your peace that it is right for you. Those who are willing to listen to your truth when it is said in reason and in a reasonable tone will hear you. Truth does not need to be shouted in anger. But it does need to be heard. Thing is its up to THEM to hear us or not.

Their opinions matter in the sense that they will try to create a world that is against you and will try to turn the group against you. When they decide to bully you and construct a world that is against your very needs and desires. It doesn't need to be shouted in danger towards reasonable people but towards unreasonable people? You need to be twice or even 3 times as stubborn against them. Because they will never respect your views but they will respect the consequences to making a world that is difficult for you. I don't have time to wait for a social movement to be on my side when I need to survive this now. I think the reason the world isn't a better place is because the bullies of the world aren't stood up to when they decide to create things like miserable working conditions and not making simple changes that could benefit people's lives with little effort. We need to stand up against them if we want to make the world a better place.
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It is wise under all but the most pathological systems to have the humility to recognize that the powers-to-be do not see you as a menace.

Will you be significant enough to be a victim of persecution? That will depend upon what your Millennial Generation teaches the next Idealist generation.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist  but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.


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(04-29-2019, 10:37 PM)AspieMillennial Wrote: How do you deal with the bully personality type that doesn't respond to reason?

Oh I have had many of these in my time as a child and definitely as a guard. The bully personality type wishes to intimidate and force you to bow down to them. What has worked is keeping calm, but firm. Stand your ground and rely on reason but show you are not scared. Calm tone, reason, calm body behaviour and try to de-escalate. But if that does not work stand your ground still but be firm. You have to get it in their head that you have their best interest in mind by stating as such ….aka reason. If say in this scenario that a neo boomer blames you for what others have done and they do not respond to reason, give them facts while keeping calm, but firm that this is what went down and that you, like them wish for the very same thing. State that this is how it is and what you wanted and what you tried to do and what they can do about it to bring about change that you both in the end want which is free speech. If that is what your end goal is, stand ground to reason and create ties you both can agree to. Now that is speaking about THIS sort of scenario. As a guard I have many different scenarios which I have had to deal with with angry drunken aggressive bullies but I have dealt with all of them and in the end succeeded in de-escalating problem people. It really does depend on the context of the situation. But anger unfortunately escalates to the point where REASON cannot be heard and will not be listened to. But this does not mean you also have to take it lying down. Not at all. The fine balance is what I work with every day and it does work.
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(04-29-2019, 10:42 PM)AspieMillennial Wrote:
(04-29-2019, 10:36 PM)taramarie Wrote: Do their opinions really matter in the end? Or does staying true to yourself and to those willing to listen matter more? You cant force people nor can they force you. You can say your piece, stay true to what is right to you if it is right for you and not let the threat invade your peace that it is right for you. Those who are willing to listen to your truth when it is said in reason and in a reasonable tone will hear you. Truth does not need to be shouted in anger. But it does need to be heard. Thing is its up to THEM to hear us or not.

Their opinions matter in the sense that they will try to create a world that is against you and will try to turn the group against you. When they decide to bully you and construct a world that is against your very needs and desires. It doesn't need to be shouted in danger towards reasonable people but towards unreasonable people? You need to be twice or even 3 times as stubborn against them. Because they will never respect your views but they will respect the consequences to making a world that is difficult for you. I don't have time to wait for a social movement to be on my side when I need to survive this now. I think the reason the world isn't a better place is because the bullies of the world aren't stood up to when they decide to create things like miserable working conditions and not making simple changes that could benefit people's lives with little effort. We need to stand up against them if we want to make the world a better place.
I hate to say it but the future does belong to them. When we are old and will die, they will be alive and thrive and build the world to their liking. We have our time. They have theirs too. We can advise, we cannot force the future to our liking when we are irrelevant and we will be irrelevant one day to the young which will come sooner than you think. We would need political power to ensure that we have those needs and desires met in ways that that can ensure that we are ok, but eventually they would take control. You cannot stop the tide. The waves of the ocean cannot be stopped when in mass. You can try to stand up to bullies when together, but the future belongs to the young in the end. The best we can do is create understanding and not alienate them.
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(04-29-2019, 10:48 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: It is wise under all but the most pathological systems to have the humility to recognize that the powers-to-be do not see you as a menace.

Will you be significant enough to be a victim of persecution? That will depend upon what your Millennial Generation teaches the next Idealist generation.

Exactly. Best we can do is explain and not alienate them.
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