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Boomers and their stay-at-home mothers
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We know that when the Boomers were kids, most mothers stayed housewifes to care for their kids. As a result, most Boomers had a way closer relationship to their mothers than to their fathers.

At the end, this hurt the [G.I.] fathers: The Boomer kids saw their mothers doing housework (and these mothers were the last generation of housewives who didn't have vacuum cleaners, washing machines etc. At least not all the time.). But the Boomers never saw their fathers at work.

This must have contributed to the Boomers rebelling against their fathers, and supporting feminism.

Despite the fact that many male feminists were crooks of the worst kind. Like Sol Wachtler who helped making rape during marriage a crime (until then, wives had the duty to agree with sex), and later harassed a woman himself. Fucking hypocrite.
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(08-14-2019, 09:57 AM)Hintergrund Wrote: We know that when the Boomers were kids, most mothers stayed housewifes to care for their kids. As a result, most Boomers had a way closer relationship to their mothers than to their fathers.

At the end, this hurt the [G.I.] fathers: The Boomer kids saw their mothers doing housework (and these mothers were the last generation of housewives who didn't have vacuum cleaners, washing machines etc. At least not all the time.). But the Boomers never saw their fathers at work.

This must have contributed to the Boomers rebelling against their fathers, and supporting feminism.

Despite the fact that many male feminists were crooks of the worst kind. Like Sol Wachtler who helped making rape during marriage a crime (until then, wives had the duty to agree with sex), and later harassed a woman himself. Fucking hypocrite.

To be totally honest, most Boomer kids rarely hung with their mothers either.  We tended to be feral children: sent out to play until dinner time.
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(08-14-2019, 10:55 AM)David Horn Wrote:
(08-14-2019, 09:57 AM)Hintergrund Wrote: We know that when the Boomers were kids, most mothers stayed housewifes to care for their kids. As a result, most Boomers had a way closer relationship to their mothers than to their fathers.

At the end, this hurt the [G.I.] fathers: The Boomer kids saw their mothers doing housework (and these mothers were the last generation of housewives who didn't have vacuum cleaners, washing machines etc. At least not all the time.). But the Boomers never saw their fathers at work.

This must have contributed to the Boomers rebelling against their fathers, and supporting feminism.

Despite the fact that many male feminists were crooks of the worst kind. Like Sol Wachtler who helped making rape during marriage a crime (until then, wives had the duty to agree with sex), and later harassed a woman himself. Fucking hypocrite.

To be totally honest, most Boomer kids rarely hung with their mothers either.  We tended to be feral children: sent out to play until dinner time.

-- where I come from we were sent out 2 play til the street lites came on

& my Mom had a washer & a vacuum cleaner. So did my Lost Grammas. I can remember helping my 1 Gramma with her wringer washer & the other Gramma had a canary that rode on her vacuum cleaner
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This may have reflected the nature of the Crisis which began with mass unemployment (women got eased out of the workplace so that men could have jobs to support families) and ended with an over-heated economy (Win the War with production!)

Mass unemployment among men creates trouble in the form of extremist movements that offer a uniform, purpose, and action. Men got the industrial jobs that they turned over to Rosie the Riveter while they went to fight fascism, and women get their husbands back. Fascism might be described cynically as testosterone meeting resentment and frustration.

America was productive enough that it could make enough stuff in forty hours of work per couple.
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(08-15-2019, 10:57 AM)pbrower2a Wrote: America was productive enough that it could make enough stuff in forty hours of work per couple.

We still are.  In fact, we're much more productive now than then, but seem to need two 50-hour a week workers to satisfy the needs of the owner class.  Since the benefits stopped flowing down a long time ago, the willingness to continue in this vein will stop at some point.  That point may be soon; I hope so.
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(08-15-2019, 10:57 AM)pbrower2a Wrote: America was productive enough that it could make enough stuff in forty hours of work per couple.

We still are.  In fact, we're much more productive now than then, but seem to need two 50-hour a week workers to satisfy the needs of the owner class.  Since the benefits stopped flowing down a long time ago, the willingness to continue in this vein will stop at some point.  I certainly hope that point is soon … very soon.
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(08-15-2019, 10:57 AM)pbrower2a Wrote: This may have reflected the nature of the Crisis which began with mass unemployment (women got eased out of the workplace so that men could have jobs to support families) and ended with an over-heated economy (Win the War with production!)

Mass unemployment among men creates trouble in the form of extremist movements that offer a uniform, purpose, and action. Men got the industrial jobs that they turned over to Rosie the Riveter while they went to fight fascism, and women get their husbands back. Fascism might be described cynically as testosterone meeting resentment and frustration.

America was productive enough that it could make enough stuff in forty hours of work per couple.

America was productive enough that it could make enough stuff in forty hours of work per couple.

Not only that, but most could also afford to take a two-week family vacation once a year. This is something that seems to have gone the way of the rotary telephone. Just saw a post on LinkedIn about this, which I pasted over on my no-vacation nation thread. Now so many workers feel as if they have to defend or justify why they would need to take a vacation. Many workers now have little or no fringe benefits of any kind.
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(08-14-2019, 02:02 PM)Marypoza Wrote:
(08-14-2019, 10:55 AM)David Horn Wrote:
(08-14-2019, 09:57 AM)Hintergrund Wrote: We know that when the Boomers were kids, most mothers stayed housewifes to care for their kids. As a result, most Boomers had a way closer relationship to their mothers than to their fathers.

At the end, this hurt the [G.I.] fathers: The Boomer kids saw their mothers doing housework (and these mothers were the last generation of housewives who didn't have vacuum cleaners, washing machines etc. At least not all the time.). But the Boomers never saw their fathers at work.

This must have contributed to the Boomers rebelling against their fathers, and supporting feminism.

Despite the fact that many male feminists were crooks of the worst kind. Like Sol Wachtler who helped making rape during marriage a crime (until then, wives had the duty to agree with sex), and later harassed a woman himself. Fucking hypocrite.

To be totally honest, most Boomer kids rarely hung with their mothers either.  We tended to be feral children: sent out to play until dinner time.

-- where I come from we were sent out 2 play til the street lites came on

& my Mom had a washer & a vacuum cleaner. So did my Lost Grammas. I can remember helping my 1 Gramma with her wringer washer & the other Gramma had a canary that rode on her vacuum cleaner
Wish my mother let me do that. Roam around till the lights came on. She barely let me out the house. I have one good fond memory as a child when my mother amazingly let me go to the mall with my neighbour and her mother and it was only because she was in a good mood and the mother would be going with us and she was friends with my friends mum. My friends mum let us roam free around the mall for TWO HOURS and it was AWESOME! Two hours I could roam and have fun and play music in the music store and play playstation in the gaming store and have fun with my friend. I was sure we would be screamed at for being gone so long but her mother just had us called on the overhead speaker to meet her somewhere and when we got there we were given a lollypop and ice cream. My mother would have smacked the living crap out of me and id be grounded and screamed at. My neighbours mother gave me a wonderful memory ill never forget and it is how it feels of for that moment in time to be free to have fun with a good friend.
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(08-14-2019, 09:57 AM)Hintergrund Wrote: We know that when the Boomers were kids, most mothers stayed housewifes to care for their kids. As a result, most Boomers had a way closer relationship to their mothers than to their fathers.

At the end, this hurt the [G.I.] fathers: The Boomer kids saw their mothers doing housework (and these mothers were the last generation of housewives who didn't have vacuum cleaners, washing machines etc. At least not all the time.). But the Boomers never saw their fathers at work.

This must have contributed to the Boomers rebelling against their fathers, and supporting feminism.

Despite the fact that many male feminists were crooks of the worst kind. Like Sol Wachtler who helped making rape during marriage a crime (until then, wives had the duty to agree with sex), and later harassed a woman himself. Fucking hypocrite.

-- NOBODY male or female,  s/b 4ced 2 have sex if they don't want 2
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(08-16-2019, 05:19 PM)Marypoza Wrote:
(08-14-2019, 09:57 AM)Hintergrund Wrote: We know that when the Boomers were kids, most mothers stayed housewifes to care for their kids. As a result, most Boomers had a way closer relationship to their mothers than to their fathers.

At the end, this hurt the [G.I.] fathers: The Boomer kids saw their mothers doing housework (and these mothers were the last generation of housewives who didn't have vacuum cleaners, washing machines etc. At least not all the time.). But the Boomers never saw their fathers at work.

This must have contributed to the Boomers rebelling against their fathers, and supporting feminism.

Despite the fact that many male feminists were crooks of the worst kind. Like Sol Wachtler who helped making rape during marriage a crime (until then, wives had the duty to agree with sex), and later harassed a woman himself. Fucking hypocrite.

-- NOBODY male or female,  s/b 4ced 2 have sex if they don't want 2

True that!
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