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Taramarie's question "Why are Boomers moralistic"
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Mikebert, I think the difference is in generational archetype. Xers can be highly moralistic too, and yet they don't start awakenings or whatever the hell the Millies are doing now. Part of the reason I think that this is the case is Nomads tend to be highly individualistic and have a deep seated mistrust of collectivism.
It really is all mathematics.

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#22
(05-14-2016, 04:41 AM)Galen Wrote:
(05-13-2016, 04:13 PM)Kinser79 Wrote: I think you over estimate the trust given to "community leaders" in both.

Stefan Molyneux would probably agree with you.  I would suggest watching the following video because speaking from experience this would not have happened even ten years ago.




I would argue that Diamond and Silk agree with me as well if you look at her other videos. Their love for Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and etc is nonexistant.
It really is all mathematics.

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#23
(05-15-2016, 05:04 PM)Kinser79 Wrote: I would argue that Diamond and Silk agree with me as well if you look at her other videos.  Their love for Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and etc is nonexistant.

That does not surprise me at all.  I consider it encouraging since they have a large following than I would have expected which implies that the current status quo is running on borrowed time.  At least this crowd has figured out Lyndon Johnson's game.
Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard. -- H.L. Mencken

If one rejects laissez faire on account of man's fallibility and moral weakness, one must for the same reason also reject every kind of government action.   -- Ludwig von Mises
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#24
Boomers are not moralistic in the genuine sense. Boomer elites seek to impose their values and deliberately seeking the objective of chaining the following generations to their agenda. Boomers want to destroy any possibility of Xers and Millies shaping their own destinies and want those destinies to be controlled by boomers and to be driven toward boomer objectives. Thus elite boomers do everything in their power to keep Xers and Millies Financially dependent and economically and morally enslaved by boomers and boomer-dominated politics.
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(05-15-2016, 05:01 PM)Kinser79 Wrote: Mikebert, I think the difference is in generational archetype.  Xers can be highly moralistic too, and yet they don't start awakenings or whatever the hell the Millies are doing now.  Part of the reason I think that this is the case is Nomads tend to be highly individualistic and have a deep seated mistrust of collectivism.

Well yes, but why does this happen?  The mechanism S&H propose does not work.  The alternative I developed that does work only gives a two stroke cycle.  It says dominant generations "beget" dominant generations with as replication time of AL-22 years, where AL is the average age of societal leaders.  Dominant generations are created by history during social moments and in term create the next social moment.  Recessive generations do the same with non-social moments. 

Why do generations who are created by culturally-rich history in the 2T and 3T create (relatively) culturally barren history (4T, 1T)?  In a cultural context generations beget their opposites.  How does this happen? 

It makes sense that a political generation who comes of age in a liberal time will tend to be vote liberal later in life.  There is real data that supports this idea.  But why would a cultural generation who comes of age in a culturally liberal era not create another culturally liberal era?
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I would point out that a case can be made that the cultural mechanism that is supposed to happen, generations beget their cultural opposites doesn't seem to be happening.  The culture war on the left continues, now its all about transgender rights. WTF?    Donald Trump is waging culture war on the right against the other (the immigrant, the Muslim, nontraditional women).  The only guy calling for a political war is Sanders, who is an Artist.  here we are I think most of the way through the 4T and its still all about moral crusades.    Go to American Conservative and check out the most read stuff.  Typically 4 out of 5 are culture war stuff written by Rod Dreher.

Vox has propaganda articles on transgender stuff as well as the Democratic party line.  Why does anyone other than the 1% affected by the transgender phenomenon care?  It was strange enough when it was about gay marriage as the big issue, you'd think the majority were gay.  And now the Trump-led  Republican party, who used to make fun of identity politics, is now the top exponent of it.  They are starting with white supremacy and sanding off some of its rough edges to get Trumps white nationalism.

In other words what looks like it is happening is Boomers who came of age in a politically and culturally liberal era (2T) are trying to recreate the same today.

This is not unprecedented.  The liberal political generation who came of age during the 1800-16 non-crisis liberal era went on to create another non-crisis liberal era over 1829-1845.  Young people fired up by Jeffersonian libertarianism went on to create a duplicate era of Jacksonian libertarianism.  Neither of these was a secular crisis.

The first period falls inside one of McLoughlin's Awakenings and so I would call it a 2T-type political era.  The second can be called the "abolitionist awakening" and corresponds to an S&H 2T.  So we had two 2Ts in a row.
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