The Coronavirus

[Bob Butler 54]

CNN has A Louisiana pastor who defied orders and held services has been arrested

Do they lock him into a jail with lots of Coronavirus positive inmates?

[Warren Dew]

(04-21-2020, 04:20 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: CNN has A Louisiana pastor who defied orders and held services has been arrested

Do they lock him into a jail with lots of Coronavirus positive inmates?

I'm sure Louisiana will be getting a new governor at first opportunity.

[pbrower2a]

Clergy do not get free passes for crimes. The offense in this case is an assault.

[pbrower2a]

I did arrange for a pneumonia vaccination. Thursday. I suspect that COVID-19 might do much of its killing through pneumonia as a complication. My encounters with respiratory infections get harder every year.

[Bob Butler 54]

(04-21-2020, 04:59 PM)Warren Dew Wrote:

(04-21-2020, 04:20 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: CNN has A Louisiana pastor who defied orders and held services has been arrested

Do they lock him into a jail with lots of Coronavirus positive inmates?

I'm sure Louisiana will be getting a new governor at first opportunity.

Not clear at all. That was a hard hit enough area that many are seeing the problem. Seeing things through a materialistic economic perspective only and you miss a lot.

[Eric the Green]

Frontline on PBS tonight will have a lot of info on the virus. Rendezevir appears to have potential as a treatment that allows people to recover.

[Eric the Green]

(04-21-2020, 04:59 PM)Warren Dew Wrote:

(04-21-2020, 04:20 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: CNN has A Louisiana pastor who defied orders and held services has been arrested

Do they lock him into a jail with lots of Coronavirus positive inmates?

I'm sure Louisiana will be getting a new governor at first opportunity.

No, governors who do the right thing will not lose elections.

Louisiana was hard hit but cases and deaths are declining relative to other states now. Thanks goodness this red state has a blue governor.

https://www.ksla.com/2020/04/20/watch-li...his-state/

[Bob Butler 54]

It seems CNN has an article on 'Missouri is suing China over coronavirus impacts'.

The reporter reports Missouri is facing an uphill battle as China has sovereign immunity.  This is likely right.

It would amuse me if a bunch of governors could turn this around and sue Trump for his blowing his response.

[pbrower2a]

Here we go again:

1 American Civil War 1861–65 750,000 (est.)(U.S./Confederate)[86] 520 31,443,000 2.385% (1860)
2 World War II 1941–45 405,399 297 133,402,000 0.307% (1940)
3 World War I 1917–18 116,516 279 103,268,000 0.110% (1920)
4 Vietnam War 1961–75 58,209 11 179,323,175 0.032% (1970)
5 Korean War 1950–53 54,246 45 151,325,000 0.036% (1950)

====== COVID-19, 40K deaths as of 22 April 2020 ======

6 American Revolutionary War 1775–83 25,000 11 2,500,000 1.00% (1780)
7 War of 1812 1812–15 15,000 15 8,000,000 0.207% (1810)
8 Mexican–American War 1846–48 13,283 29 21,406,000 0.057% (1850)
9 Iraq War 2003–11 4,576 2 294,043,000 0.002% (2010)
10 Philippine–American War 1899–1902 4,196 3.8 72,129,001 0.006% (1900)
11 Spanish–American War 1898 2,246 8.9 62,022,250 0.004% (1890)
12 War in Afghanistan 2001–present 2,216 0.36 294,043,000 0.001% (2010)

Nearly 2600 Americans died yesterday of the plague of 2020. If we had a general getting that level of deaths on a daily basis he would be sacked. Armies are usually defeated when they run out of cannon fodder.

Hey, hey, Donald Trump! How many bodies will we need to dump!

[gabrielle]

(04-22-2020, 02:17 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: It seems CNN has an article on 'Missouri is suing China over coronavirus impacts'.

The reporter reports Missouri is facing an uphill battle as China has sovereign immunity.  This is likely right.

It would amuse me if a bunch of governors could turn this around and sue Trump for his blowing his response.

Yep, that would be my state.  My governor also announced today he was letting most businesses reopen on May 5.

[Warren Dew]

(04-21-2020, 05:50 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:

(04-21-2020, 04:59 PM)Warren Dew Wrote: I'm sure Louisiana will be getting a new governor at first opportunity.

No, governors who do the right thing will not lose elections.

Louisiana was hard hit

Unlike neighboring Texas and Alabama.  Any governor who does worse than Alabama can hardly be doing the "right thing"!

[Bob Butler 54]

New Orleans did miss shutting down Mardi Gras. That got it started with all sorts of hot spots following that.

[Eric the Green]

(04-22-2020, 11:39 PM)Warren Dew Wrote:

(04-21-2020, 05:50 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:

(04-21-2020, 04:59 PM)Warren Dew Wrote: I'm sure Louisiana will be getting a new governor at first opportunity.

No, governors who do the right thing will not lose elections.

Louisiana was hard hit....

Unlike neighboring Texas and Alabama.  Any governor who does worse than Alabama can hardly be doing the "right thing"!

 Louisiana was hard hit....but cases and deaths are declining relative to other states now. Thanks goodness this red state has a blue governor.

[David Horn]

(04-22-2020, 07:49 PM)gabrielle Wrote:

(04-22-2020, 02:17 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: It seems CNN has an article on 'Missouri is suing China over coronavirus impacts'.

The reporter reports Missouri is facing an uphill battle as China has sovereign immunity.  This is likely right.

It would amuse me if a bunch of governors could turn this around and sue Trump for his blowing his response.

Yep, that would be my state.  My governor also announced today he was letting most businesses reopen on May 5.

Stay safe.  We value you even if he doesn't.  

[gabrielle]

(04-23-2020, 02:22 PM)David Horn Wrote:

(04-22-2020, 07:49 PM)gabrielle Wrote:

(04-22-2020, 02:17 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: It seems CNN has an article on 'Missouri is suing China over coronavirus impacts'.

The reporter reports Missouri is facing an uphill battle as China has sovereign immunity.  This is likely right.

It would amuse me if a bunch of governors could turn this around and sue Trump for his blowing his response.

Yep, that would be my state.  My governor also announced today he was letting most businesses reopen on May 5.

Stay safe.  We value you even if he doesn't.  

Thank you.

[pbrower2a]

Eleventh Amendment... compels American states to rely upon the federal government for lawsuits against sovereign states.

[Bob Butler 54]

(04-23-2020, 09:24 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: Eleventh Amendment... compels American states to rely upon the federal government for lawsuits against sovereign states.

Quote:The Judicial power of the United States shall not be construed to extend to any suit in law or equity, commenced or prosecuted against one of the United States by Citizens of another State, or by Citizens or Subjects of any Foreign State.

This one seems to be written in lawyer speak, and I can't claim to understand it fully. However, I don't quite see how it forbids a state from bringing suit on a foreign state?

[David Horn]

(04-23-2020, 10:30 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:

(04-23-2020, 09:24 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: Eleventh Amendment... compels American states to rely upon the federal government for lawsuits against sovereign states.

Quote:The Judicial power of the United States shall not be construed to extend to any suit in law or equity, commenced or prosecuted against one of the United States by Citizens of another State, or by Citizens or Subjects of any Foreign State.

This one seems to be written in lawyer speak, and I can't claim to understand it fully.  However, I don't quite see how it forbids a state from bringing suit on a foreign state?

Yeah,  It's similar to the difference between "you can't not do this" and "you must do this".  There seems to be a bit of wiggle room in the first version that's not there in the second.

[pbrower2a]

Michigan seems set to relax restrictions upon golf and motor-boating. Probably golf itself and not the "19th hole", the bar and restaurant at the end of the golf game.

It seems reasonable enough.

[Bob Butler 54]

CNN has an article titled Scaramucci: This seems to be Trump's pandemic strategy

Scaramucci plays the time that Trump can't yell fake science, that "These are objective facts."  Seems to me he does yell fake science on other subjects, and he gets away with it with his base if, say, a subject like global warming don't show immediate and self destructive results to his base.  If their own interest isn't put at immediate risk, the rewards of ignoring science are worth the anguish cause other generations.

I’m not sure.  Anyway, I have an old Rodgers and Harmersetin song from South Pacific that has been running through my head on and off…

Quote:Happy talk, keep talkin' happy talk,
Talk about things you'd like to do.
You got to have a dream,
If you don't have a dream,
How you gonna have a dream come true?

Talk about the moon floatin' in the sky
Lookin' like a lily on the lake
Talk about a bird learnin' how to fly.
Makin' all the music he can make.

Happy talk, keep talkin' happy talk,
Talk about things you'd like to do.
You got to have a dream,
If you don't have a dream,
How you gonna have a dream come true?

Talk about the star lookin' like a toy
Peekin' through the branches of a tree;
Talk about the girl, talk about the boy
Countin' all the ripples on the sea.

Happy talk, keep talkin' happy talk,
Talk about things you'd like to do.
You got to have a dream,
If you don't have a dream
How you gonna have a dream come true?

I figure it would make a fine ironic theme song if played over nurses, doctors, first responders, funeral directors and such like doing as they have had to.