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Here is an example of how government creates problems.
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(05-23-2017, 08:04 AM)Warren Dew Wrote:
(05-23-2017, 07:11 AM)Odin Wrote:
(05-22-2017, 11:36 AM)X_4AD_84 Wrote: He casts stones from his glass house, labeling others religious zealots, not recognizing his own zealotry regarding the free market / supposedly libertarian beliefs. I have helped elect Libertarian politicians and can appreciate libertarian thought, but like all things we cannot be doctrinaire and obsessed with "the big idea."

Wink

Galen is a classic one-track personality. When all you have is a hammer everything looks like a nail.

I always tell these people, if charity could solve all social problems why did government get involved in the first place? Their usual answer is some conspiracy theory involving "liberal elites", showing that deep-down they are the exact same sort of crazies who voted for Trump.

Our government got involved for the same reason they always get involved:  there were votes to be bought.

Quite right.  Nothing like having large numbers of dependent people which makes for a very reliable voting demographic.  That was the purpose of the Great Society programs.
Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard. -- H.L. Mencken

If one rejects laissez faire on account of man's fallibility and moral weakness, one must for the same reason also reject every kind of government action.   -- Ludwig von Mises
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#22
Libertarians have bought the government, and have owned it for 40 years.
"I close my eyes, and I can see a better day" -- Justin Bieber

Keep the spirit alive;
Eric M
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#23
See, there it is, the conspiracy theories I was referring it. Rolleyes
#MakeTheDemocratsGreatAgain
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(05-23-2017, 02:30 PM)Galen Wrote:
(05-23-2017, 08:04 AM)Warren Dew Wrote:
(05-23-2017, 07:11 AM)Odin Wrote:
(05-22-2017, 11:36 AM)X_4AD_84 Wrote: He casts stones from his glass house, labeling others religious zealots, not recognizing his own zealotry regarding the free market / supposedly libertarian beliefs. I have helped elect Libertarian politicians and can appreciate libertarian thought, but like all things we cannot be doctrinaire and obsessed with "the big idea."

Wink

Galen is a classic one-track personality. When all you have is a hammer everything looks like a nail.

I always tell these people, if charity could solve all social problems why did government get involved in the first place? Their usual answer is some conspiracy theory involving "liberal elites", showing that deep-down they are the exact same sort of crazies who voted for Trump.

Our government got involved for the same reason they always get involved:  there were votes to be bought.

Quite right.  Nothing like having large numbers of dependent people which makes for a very reliable voting demographic.  That was the purpose of the Great Society programs.

People are dependent on the government to the extent that Corporate America throws them away.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist  but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.


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(05-23-2017, 02:43 PM)Eric the Obtuse Wrote: Libertarians have bought the government, and have owned it for 40 years.

If libertarians owned the government Ron Paul would have been president long ago.  For those of us in the real universe this obviously did not happen.  No telling what happened in the universe you inhabit or is that just the after-effects of the recreational pharmaceuticals you used in the sixties.
Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard. -- H.L. Mencken

If one rejects laissez faire on account of man's fallibility and moral weakness, one must for the same reason also reject every kind of government action.   -- Ludwig von Mises
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