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Thread: British Cycles 6 Turnings
Post: RE: British Cycles 6 Turnings
| Thanks for the reply Eric. That may explain the British Saeculum 1797 to 1858 being ultra short but how would you divide that saeculum up into turnings. There weren’t any significant religious awakeni... |
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Thread: British Cycles 6 Turnings
Post: RE: British Cycles 6 Turnings
| (10-30-2019, 08:10 AM)Hintergrund Wrote: I dunno. Looks shoehorned to me, just for the sake of having saecula of more equal length.
Why does neoliberalism start in 1973? Except in Chile and some un... |
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Thread: British Cycles 6 Turnings
Post: RE: British Cycles 6 Turnings
| (10-29-2019, 09:27 AM)Hintergrund Wrote: I don't really see any improvement to S+H's theories. Can you tell us why your interpretation of history makes more sense?
There a several reasons:
1) I hav... |
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Jessquo |
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10-29-2019, 12:03 PM |
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Thread: British Cycles 6 Turnings
Post: RE: British Cycles 6 Turnings
| Eric, if you were to continue my pattern (see the attachment) from the conclusion of the Revolutionary crisis in 1797 to the end of the next crisis in 1868 and then from 1868 to the beginning of the I... |
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10-29-2019, 08:19 AM |
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Thread: British Cycles 6 Turnings
Post: RE: British Cycles 6 Turnings
| Warren, the Glorious revolution was a largely bloodless conservative 'revolution'. 1688 marked the start of the Glorious Unravelling that led to the Jacobite Crisis which began in 1702 following King ... |
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10-29-2019, 07:52 AM |
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Thread: British Cycles 6 Turnings
Post: RE: British Cycles 6 Turnings
| Warren, I agree that an international conflict involving the UK or a conflict within the British Empire would be consistent with a Crisis turning but, if you look at my initial "6 British Turnings Not... |
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10-28-2019, 11:37 AM |
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Thread: British Cycles 6 Turnings
Post: RE: British Cycles 6 Turnings
| Initially, I thought the Crimean War and the Chartist movements would nicely fit within the Cycles as Crises but they arrive too early. Also, I'm looking specifically at the UK rather than continental... |
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Thread: Merchants and Sages
Post: RE: Merchants and Sages
| (10-27-2019, 11:12 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: (10-27-2019, 10:47 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: (10-27-2019, 12:40 PM)Jessquo Wrote: I was wondering what ideas people might have regarding other possible name... |
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Thread: Merchants and Sages
Post: RE: Merchants and Sages
| (10-27-2019, 10:47 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: (10-27-2019, 12:40 PM)Jessquo Wrote: I was wondering what ideas people might have regarding other possible names for the additional 2 generational architypes... |
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10-28-2019, 07:12 AM |
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Thread: British Cycles 6 Turnings
Post: British Cycles 6 Turnings
| Hi, I'm in the process of developing a 6 turnings/generations cycle theory and have identified an unbroken Anglo-American cycle beginning in 1377 (see attached). However, the British cycle appears to ... |
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10-27-2019, 12:54 PM |
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Thread: Merchants and Sages
Post: Merchants and Sages
| I was wondering what ideas people might have regarding other possible names for the additional 2 generational architypes (Merchants and Sages) in the 6 generation/turning cycle I have identified? See ... |
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10-27-2019, 12:40 PM |
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Thread: Finding the 6 Turnings pattern elsewhere.
Post: Finding the 6 Turnings pattern elsewhere.
| I completed my politics PhD thesis in December last year and am now wanting to undertake a Postdoc concerning the political sociology of Anglo-American historical and generational cycles: scrutinising... |
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04-02-2019, 07:48 AM |
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Thread: 6 Turnings
Post: RE: 6 Turnings
| (03-12-2019, 05:35 AM)pbrower2a Wrote: Do things go back to that? Maybe. A 4T is not the sort of time in which an Enron or Madoff scam is possible. There is no easy money. Government can spend big o... |
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03-12-2019, 07:39 AM |
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Thread: 6 Turnings
Post: RE: 6 Turnings
| (03-11-2019, 10:26 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: (03-11-2019, 09:05 PM)Jessquo Wrote: I have realised that using the name Missionary for the cynic archetype of the Great powers saeculum was confusing. ... |
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Thread: 6 Turnings
Post: RE: 6 Turnings
| I have realised that using the name Missionary for the cynic archetype of the Great powers saeculum was confusing. I have changed the generational names for that saeculum. I think this is an improveme... |
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Thread: 6 Turnings
Post: RE: 6 Turnings
| (03-11-2019, 05:40 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: The 1920s, although a 3T decade, were not a decade of this type, though; things seemed to be going great. The 1930s are another example of this early cris... |
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03-11-2019, 06:07 PM |
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Thread: 6 Turnings
Post: RE: 6 Turnings
| (03-11-2019, 04:59 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: (03-11-2019, 04:15 PM)Jessquo Wrote: (03-11-2019, 02:36 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: Thanks for your thoughts. Contributions from new posters are apprecia... |
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03-11-2019, 05:25 PM |
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Thread: 6 Turnings
Post: RE: 6 Turnings
| (03-11-2019, 02:36 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: Thanks for your thoughts. Contributions from new posters are appreciated, even if people may disagree.
I like the idea that there are many grey champions... |
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Thread: 6 Turnings
Post: RE: 6 Turnings
| (03-11-2019, 01:50 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: Seriously? Indeed; missionaries are not cynics by definition. And Missionaries weren't. Idealists are not cynics, and cynics are not idealists.
You have ... |
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03-11-2019, 02:08 PM |
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Thread: 6 Turnings
Post: RE: 6 Turnings
| (03-11-2019, 01:30 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: I interpret the generational cycle as a consequence of the norms of the lifetime of human development from birth to either death or senescence (the latter two ... |
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Thread: 6 Turnings
Post: RE: 6 Turnings
| (03-11-2019, 01:42 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: I think there are 6 saecula within a civilization cycle, but not 6 turnings within a saeculum. On rare occasions an adjustment may be needed; just like a ... |
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Thread: 6 Turnings
Post: RE: 6 Turnings
| Exactly, in my schema Diffusions are essentially the second half of what S & H describe as Awakenings. However, if you add my Awakenings and Diffusions together, they tend to be somewhat longer th... |
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Thread: 6 Turnings
Post: RE: 6 Turning
| (03-11-2019, 06:42 AM)sbarrera Wrote: (03-10-2019, 09:26 AM)Jessquo Wrote: (03-09-2019, 05:04 PM)sbarrera Wrote: Looks like you are using the Strauss and Howe names for four of your turnings, an... |
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Thread: 6 Turnings
Post: RE: 6 Turnings
| (03-10-2019, 11:12 AM)Bill the Piper Wrote: (03-10-2019, 09:36 AM)Jessquo Wrote: No the counterculture had not but the charismatic revival certainly had begun by that time. Absolutely the counter ... |
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03-10-2019, 05:31 PM |
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Thread: 6 Turnings
Post: RE: 6 Turnings
| (03-10-2019, 08:50 AM)Bill the Piper Wrote: Quote:1st High Post-war 1945 - 1960
2nd Awakening Charismatic/Counterculture 1960 - 1973
I don't think counterculture started in 1960. Also it stayed rel... |
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