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Let's make fun of Trump, bash him, etc. while we can!
(11-09-2016, 01:26 PM)radind Wrote:
(11-09-2016, 01:16 PM)taramarie Wrote: Guys, the world is not laughing. The world is disgusted and terrified. There is nothing to laugh at here.
A little patience. In my view the USA will be better without Clinton.
I expect Trump to be better than many anticipate.

You'll keep your guns and your anti-abortion laws safe. Congratulations.
"I close my eyes, and I can see a better day" -- Justin Bieber

Keep the spirit alive;
Eric M
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(11-09-2016, 02:04 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:
(11-09-2016, 01:26 PM)radind Wrote:
(11-09-2016, 01:16 PM)taramarie Wrote: Guys, the world is not laughing. The world is disgusted and terrified. There is nothing to laugh at here.
A little patience. In my view the USA will be better without Clinton.
I expect Trump to be better than many anticipate.

You'll keep your guns and your anti-abortion laws safe. Congratulations.
Abortion is still legal. I do like the second amendment. I had other concerns about Clinton, but fortunately for me we will never know if these concerns were valid or not. 
And no one knows what Trump will actually do as president.
 … whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is commendable, if there is any excellence, if there is anything worthy of praise, think about these things. Phil 4:8 (ESV)
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"He won't be that bad".

I expect to hate just about everything that he does as President. Nothing that he did on the campaign gave me any cause to believe that he would be anything other than a vicious boor. I also expect to hate the Republican party as it becomes increasingly monolithic and increasingly consolidates crushing power on the American political system. I expect America to become even more inegalitarian in economic results.

America will have a brain drain. If one has a smart kid and a choice of countries to go to, then one will not choose America where a college degree will put one in deep debt. (If the kids aren't so bright, then the USA will be OK... for kids who can grow up to be waiters, landscapers, and the like. But there's no debt associated with those low-paying jobs). Countries that have declining populations might find American youth of above-average intelligence as solutions to demographic decline. Get a degree in Sweden, and you will likely stay in Sweden.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist  but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.


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(11-09-2016, 02:28 PM)radind Wrote:
(11-09-2016, 02:04 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:
(11-09-2016, 01:26 PM)radind Wrote:
(11-09-2016, 01:16 PM)taramarie Wrote: Guys, the world is not laughing. The world is disgusted and terrified. There is nothing to laugh at here.
A little patience. In my view the USA will be better without Clinton.
I expect Trump to be better than many anticipate.

You'll keep your guns and your anti-abortion laws safe. Congratulations.
Abortion is still legal. I do like the second amendment. I had other concerns about Clinton, but fortunately for me we will never know if these concerns were valid or not. 
And no one knows what Trump will actually do as president.

I expect that the largest impact from Trump will be on the Supreme Court.
 … whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is commendable, if there is any excellence, if there is anything worthy of praise, think about these things. Phil 4:8 (ESV)
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"I close my eyes, and I can see a better day" -- Justin Bieber

Keep the spirit alive;
Eric M
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(11-09-2016, 03:08 PM)X_4AD_84 Wrote:
(11-09-2016, 02:04 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:
(11-09-2016, 01:26 PM)radind Wrote:
(11-09-2016, 01:16 PM)taramarie Wrote: Guys, the world is not laughing. The world is disgusted and terrified. There is nothing to laugh at here.
A little patience. In my view the USA will be better without Clinton.
I expect Trump to be better than many anticipate.

You'll keep your guns and your anti-abortion laws safe. Congratulations.

Especially because Comrade Trump won, I'm glad to have some guns. I'm thinking of getting more. I need a good newer model tactical rifle plus another long range precision one. Partisennes need guns. Explosives even better. Not saying it will definitely reach that point. But if we end up being a Quisling regime to the up coming 4th Reich (which I do believe will rise up during the current 4T), I plan to be part of the Resistance. I know I'm just one guy who knows how to shoot, who in spite of my years, can force a march through a fair bit of territory. I am in good shape especially when vertical relief is involved. I am not alone and if I link up with others of a similar bent, we could do an effective insurgency if required. Thank God for the Second Amendment.

Take some advice from a student of history. You will need more than citizens with guns. You'll need a great organization behind you; a state in waiting. And allies from abroad. Unless you just want to shoot your way into jail or the grave.

Democracy Now pointed out the danger we face. Hillary advised us to keep working for our dreams and values. Activists who do this and journalists who cover what's happening will face increasing resistance from the Trump brigades, and from Mr. Trump himself. And they will be able to appoint court justices that support his orders. The majority of the heartland in and beyond the Sierras, Cascades and Appalachians will not care; they will be all too proud to stand up for America and make it great again by putting the protesters and journalists in jail, or kill them. We've seen this movie before, but it was only coming attractions. Our nation could very well end up like Turkey is ending up now, and just as there, the people who get counted will be happy about it. Very happy.
"I close my eyes, and I can see a better day" -- Justin Bieber

Keep the spirit alive;
Eric M
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(11-09-2016, 03:00 PM)radind Wrote:
(11-09-2016, 02:28 PM)radind Wrote:
(11-09-2016, 02:04 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:
(11-09-2016, 01:26 PM)radind Wrote:
(11-09-2016, 01:16 PM)taramarie Wrote: Guys, the world is not laughing. The world is disgusted and terrified. There is nothing to laugh at here.
A little patience. In my view the USA will be better without Clinton.
I expect Trump to be better than many anticipate.

You'll keep your guns and your anti-abortion laws safe. Congratulations.
Abortion is still legal. I do like the second amendment. I had other concerns about Clinton, but fortunately for me we will never know if these concerns were valid or not. 
And no one knows what Trump will actually do as president.

I expect that the largest impact from Trump will be on the Supreme Court.

And the concerns that you and your fellow Trump and Cruz voters raised were about "the first and second amendments." In other words, freedom to discriminate against gays, and freedom for anyone to own as many guns as they wish, of any kind. And you voted on the basis of the abortion battle; you admitted that specifically. Don't back away from your statement now. You voted for Trump to make abortion illegal. And it could happen.
"I close my eyes, and I can see a better day" -- Justin Bieber

Keep the spirit alive;
Eric M
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Big Grin 
(06-03-2016, 09:30 PM)Kinser79 Wrote:
(06-02-2016, 12:58 AM)taramarie Wrote: Ugh......that title. I am staying out of this one.

Eric the Ignoramus, et al.  Probably feel the need to have this thread so they are on record as being against President Trump.  Problem is, if he really is the boogeyman they claim him to be they would be rounded up for threads like this.

Good to see my prediction has come true.  Say Eric what is your address, the Committee for the Defense of the Revolution wants to know. Angel Waveusa
It really is all mathematics.

Turn on to Daddy, Tune in to Nationalism, Drop out of UN/NATO/WTO/TPP/NAFTA/CAFTA Globalism.
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(11-09-2016, 01:56 PM)taramarie Wrote:
(11-09-2016, 01:26 PM)radind Wrote:
(11-09-2016, 01:16 PM)taramarie Wrote: Guys, the world is not laughing. The world is disgusted and terrified. There is nothing to laugh at here.
A little patience. In my view the USA will be better without Clinton.
I expect Trump to be better than many anticipate.

Stuff either of them. I wanted Bernie.

Really isn't about what you wanted, considering you aren't even an American or legal to vote here. It is NOT a global government system. No other country gets a say in our electorate process.
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(11-09-2016, 05:22 PM)taramarie Wrote:
(11-09-2016, 04:54 PM)Danilynn Wrote:
(11-09-2016, 01:56 PM)taramarie Wrote:
(11-09-2016, 01:26 PM)radind Wrote: [quote='taramarie' pid='11830' dateline='1478715407']
Guys, the world is not laughing. The world is disgusted and terrified. There is nothing to laugh at here.
A little patience. In my view the USA will be better without Clinton.
I expect Trump to be better than many anticipate.

Stuff either of them. I wanted Bernie.

-- me too honey, me too

Quote:Really isn't about what you wanted, considering you aren't even an American or legal to vote here. It is NOT a global government system. No other country gets a say in our electorate process.
You really have ot been paying attention to my posts have you? I said the same about Russia trying to push for Trump. But I do get to have an opinion about who I wish was the president. It does not affect who actually gets in.

-- unfortunately the DNC screwed Bernie over.  Now we're all paying for it. karma's a bitch

That said, the Donald is against the TPP, he is not picking a fight with Russia & he wants us out of the Middle East. He sez he'll get rid of obummercrap, but l'll settle for him making it optional. I didn't vote for his ass but l can stomach it for the next 4 yrs. (Hopefully Congress will flip in 2018 & it will only be 2yrs. ) little Marco or big Ted, not so much. Those 2 creeps will not be running in 2020 (assuming the Donald wants a 2nd term) so hopefully their presidential aspirations will be crushed for good. Hopefully the Dems will get serious in 2020. They were obviously playing this yr or they'd of run Bernie
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(11-09-2016, 05:42 PM)Marypoza Wrote: -- unfortunately the DNC screwed Bernie over.  Now we're all paying for it. karma's a bitch

That said, the Donald is against the TPP,  he is not picking a fight with Russia & he wants us out of the Middle East. He sez he'll get rid of obummercrap, but l'll settle for him making it optional. I didn't vote for his ass but l can stomach it for the next 4 yrs. (Hopefully Congress will flip in 2018 & it will only be 2yrs. ) little Marco or big Ted, not so much.  Those 2 creeps will not be running in 2020 (assuming the Donald wants a 2nd term) so hopefully their presidential aspirations will be crushed for good. Hopefully gbe Dems will get serious in 2020. They were obviously playing this yr or they'd of run Bernie
This is Rags and I approve of this message. Cool 
And since both contenders are from NYC and "deplorables" like so much "bad" adjectives is a badge of courage amongst GenX as it's always been  ... Take  it away Ugly Kid Joe.  Methinks GenX  gave a big fuck you to the SJW's





A rendition, if you will of the Statue of Liberty redone giving a big Fuck You and colored piss yellow.
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(11-09-2016, 01:26 PM)radind Wrote:
(11-09-2016, 01:16 PM)taramarie Wrote: Guys, the world is not laughing. The world is disgusted and terrified. There is nothing to laugh at here.
A little patience. In my view the USA will be better without Clinton.
I expect Trump to be better than many anticipate.

He will 'not be that bad' because he won't be able to get away with some of his campaign rhetoric. Much of America fears Donald Trump, and such fears as many have will not be implemented.

In the event of a really nasty meltdown of the economy, many illegal aliens will self-deport. This will be far more effective than any deportation force.

I expect a Trump Administration to be a worker's nightmare as the Reactionary Party will finally get to pass a nationwide Right to Work law that will eviscerate unions. Workplace safety will deteriorate severely, with more people dying or being crippled on the job. It will also be a bane of those with environmental concerns, as he will almost certainly be the best possible friend of polluters.

I see him as very much a divider, largely because he will force liberals and Democrats into irrelevance for at least his first term.

I predict that the gains of minorities in economic results will stall, with many young adults finding no roles for them. I predict that we will have riots at least as bad as those of the '60s -- and Donald Trump and Republican governors  will over-react.

Can one lead by ensuring that 45% of the electorate can remain permanently irrelevant? Maybe . If so, then America will steadily degenerate. In some places on the periphery, liberals will seek independence... and get it. But that suggests a Yugoslav-style breakup, something very possible in a 4T. It would take only a few years for a large state like California to secede from America.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist  but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.


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Oh, by the way -- I expect America to become a grimmer, drearier, and more joyless place for those not already rich. That is how plutocracy works.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist  but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.


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(11-09-2016, 07:23 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: Oh, by the way -- I expect America to become a grimmer, drearier, and more joyless place for those not already rich. That is how plutocracy works.

So basically nothing will change.
It really is all mathematics.

Turn on to Daddy, Tune in to Nationalism, Drop out of UN/NATO/WTO/TPP/NAFTA/CAFTA Globalism.
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Music fitting the day. Requiem Mass, Giuseppe Verdi.






It was a murder.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist  but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.


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Nah that music was fitting in 2012. Today we need ragtime jazz or swing.
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(11-09-2016, 07:52 PM)Kinser79 Wrote:
(11-09-2016, 07:23 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: Oh, by the way -- I expect America to become a grimmer, drearier, and more joyless place for those not already rich. That is how plutocracy works.

So basically nothing will change.

Not quite. It will accelerate.

I expect the Republican Party and the economic elites behind it to do everything possible to maintain power and leave any ideological alternative, including a humanistic liberalism, blocked out of relevance indefinitely.

In the end the pathology makes a socialist insurrection possible in the event of a crop failure  (like global warming that isn't happening), an economic meltdown, or a war for profits going badly
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist  but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.


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(11-09-2016, 07:57 PM)Danilynn Wrote: Nah that music was fitting in 2012. Today we need ragtime jazz or swing.





Perfect for Shillary's political funeral.
It really is all mathematics.

Turn on to Daddy, Tune in to Nationalism, Drop out of UN/NATO/WTO/TPP/NAFTA/CAFTA Globalism.
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(11-09-2016, 08:05 PM)pbrower2a Wrote:
(11-09-2016, 07:52 PM)Kinser79 Wrote:
(11-09-2016, 07:23 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: Oh, by the way -- I expect America to become a grimmer, drearier, and more joyless place for those not already rich. That is how plutocracy works.

So basically nothing will change.

Not quite. It will accelerate.

I expect the Republican Party and the economic elites behind it to do everything possible to maintain power and leave any ideological alternative, including a humanistic liberalism, blocked out of relevance indefinitely.

In the end the pathology makes a socialist insurrection possible in the event of a crop failure  (like global warming that isn't happening), an economic meltdown, or a war for profits going badly

One Yuge problem with that theory bro. The GOP elites hate Trump and Trump's base. They will be absorbed by the Democrats most likely because the party's have switched coats again. I would have thought you'd have noticed that she sounded like the Goldwater girl she always was and he sounds like a Jack Kennedy Democrat.
It really is all mathematics.

Turn on to Daddy, Tune in to Nationalism, Drop out of UN/NATO/WTO/TPP/NAFTA/CAFTA Globalism.
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(11-09-2016, 07:57 PM)Danilynn Wrote: Nah that music was fitting in 2012. Today we need ragtime jazz or swing.

It depends upon your politics. Please!

Can you really excuse a crotch-grabbing rake? A businessman who stiffs subcontractors? Someone who dredges gutter racism that most of us thought outmoded?

Donald Trump is three things that history shows can destroy democracy -- a demagogue, a sociopath, and a kleptocrat. One is enough, and even Hitler was only two of the three. Trump is all three.

All in all, I now wish that Mitt Romney had won in 2012. We would thus be spared the four-year nightmare that  we now face. I wish that I could emigrate today.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist  but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.


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