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Democrats organize to fight back
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(11-16-2016, 09:34 AM)Marypoza Wrote:
(11-16-2016, 05:18 AM)Warren Dew Wrote:
(11-15-2016, 04:51 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: "Okay, to be more specific, they don't worry about top down enforcement of global warming prevention initiatives in the U.S.  They may support bottom up solutions, like encouraging people to install rooftop solar, but their primary focus is on overseas initiatives."

Sorry, but it has to be "top down," which of course really means "bottom up." We the people, through our government, and our activism, must topple the top down people, the 1%, who destroy our environment to boost their own wealth and power, and subject these top people to the law. That's the real "top down" that needs to be stopped. The government program called corporate America and big money. Powerful people, working in top-down authoritarian corporations, destroying the bottom-most living beings, the life that has no voice without environmentalists and Democrats.

I honestly don't see how you fail to get this. It's been crystal clear to me for 55 years. Why don't you see it, Warren?

You have your way now. How much longer will you "not worry" that the globe is warming, as the temps now start to go through the roof?

I don't  see it because it's not true, of course.  There are plenty of things that can be done about global warming without top down policies.

For my own part, here are some of the things I have done personally:

- Heavily insulated the walls, double insulated the roof, and replaced all the windows with triple paned energy efficient windows in the house I've owned for 26 years, reducing heating fuel usage by a factor of three or four.

- Stayed in this home close to the central city, minimizing transportation needs and resultant fossil fuel use by putting less than 5000 miles on my car each year.

- Replaced cars infrequently to minimize resource and fuel use associated with production, and with relatively fuel efficient models, such as my current car that weighs only half as much as the SUVs that seem preferred by progressive Democrats these days.

The next step will probably be installing rooftop solar, which should cut the carbon footprint of my electrical usage to virtually nil.

Think globally, act locally.  That used to be the mantra of environmentalists, back before they abdicated their responsibilities and started salving their consciences with ineffective "environmental" groups.

-- l have just started a good paying job (after yrs of survival ones since Lehman Brothers) & l hope to be able to do the insulation & the solar panels as soon as l have enough saved up

I have always driven my cars into the ground ( why trade it in if it still runs?)

I live close to the downtown area here & just 5 min away from the new job  Smile

Sounds like you are doing your part.

Insulation is generally the best environmental investment.  The various forms of insulation I got had payback times between 1 and 5 years; solar panels are around 20 years.

My windows also had about a 20 year payback time, but in addition to the energy conservation benefits, they also removed a lot of winter cold spots and summer hot spots, so I'm quite happy with them too.
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RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Galen - 11-14-2016, 02:52 AM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by tg63 - 11-15-2016, 10:27 AM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Warren Dew - 11-16-2016, 12:20 PM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Odin - 11-17-2016, 08:00 AM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Odin - 11-18-2016, 08:06 AM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Galen - 11-18-2016, 04:31 PM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Galen - 11-22-2016, 03:22 AM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Odin - 11-22-2016, 07:56 AM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Odin - 11-22-2016, 04:23 PM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Galen - 11-22-2016, 04:04 PM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Galen - 11-22-2016, 04:54 PM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Odin - 11-22-2016, 04:33 PM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Odin - 11-25-2016, 04:05 PM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by FLBones - 12-09-2016, 04:11 PM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Odin - 12-13-2016, 05:16 PM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Odin - 12-14-2016, 08:20 AM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Odin - 12-13-2016, 05:21 PM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Galen - 12-22-2016, 04:20 AM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Galen - 12-22-2016, 05:01 PM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Galen - 12-22-2016, 05:02 PM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by TnT - 12-25-2016, 07:03 PM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Odin - 12-26-2016, 09:51 AM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Odin - 12-28-2016, 05:27 PM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by tg63 - 12-30-2016, 12:51 PM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by TnT - 12-26-2016, 04:59 PM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Galen - 12-29-2016, 03:47 AM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Bronsin - 12-30-2016, 01:42 PM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Odin - 03-11-2017, 05:14 PM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Galen - 05-26-2017, 03:09 PM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Galen - 05-28-2017, 02:47 AM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Galen - 05-28-2017, 02:43 AM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Odin - 06-02-2017, 06:27 PM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Galen - 06-03-2017, 01:04 AM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Galen - 06-03-2017, 01:18 AM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Galen - 05-27-2017, 01:35 AM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Galen - 05-28-2017, 02:34 AM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Odin - 06-14-2017, 06:07 AM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Odin - 06-15-2017, 07:02 AM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Odin - 06-15-2017, 06:57 AM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Odin - 06-16-2017, 06:26 AM

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