Culture Wars Era - is it moving into its final phase?

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(01-18-2017, 12:20 PM)SomeGuy Wrote:

(01-18-2017, 12:12 PM)David Horn Wrote:

(01-17-2017, 01:16 PM)SomeGuy Wrote:

(01-17-2017, 12:44 PM)The Wonkette Wrote:

(01-16-2017, 05:59 PM)SomeGuy Wrote: Am not seeing environmental action this turning, though it will continue to be a greater and greater issue going forward.  It is worthwhile to point out that if it doesn't happen this turning, it doesn't have to wait till the second.  Most of Britain's modern social-insurance got rammed through under Attlee after the 4T was over.

IIRC, there are those, such as David Kaiser, who believe that the UK's 4T didn't end until the late 40s or early 50s.  In that case, the National Health and other British social insurance programs would have been implemented in a 4T.

Late '40s I can believe, 50s seems like it would be pushing it.  But I dunno, if Kaiser or Chas were here I could probably get a decent explanation for it.

Either way, it doesn't preclude a Dem (or whatever) sliding in and pushing some stuff through in the '29 to '30 timeframe.

I read a comment somewhere that the push to kill the ACA may be the only way to get a single payer system in place.  We'll see.

Which goes back to your earlier comment about the seed being sown now.  Remember, Trump has expressed support of Canadian style health care in the past.  If the Dems can get the upper-hand back in Congress, I would not be surprised to see Donald Trump tack back in that direction.  We will really have to wait and see, it's not like he's a real ideological guy.

This would be the scenario of - first, wreck the state; next, build a new one on the rubble.