01-26-2017, 11:01 AM
(01-26-2017, 10:10 AM)David Horn Wrote: “I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.”
(01-25-2017, 01:34 PM)SomeGuy Wrote:Quote:People have done the math with no agenda aforethought. Guess what. WW3 would not be the end of the world.
Correct. Nuclear winter is grossly overhyped, studies done by RAND, Kahn, and others have shown that casualties, while horrific, would not kill the majority of the population.
But it would be The End of the World as We Know It.
Albert Einstein was asked about this. He responded, “I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.”
Is that all you got, bumper sticker slogans? Would it really be a "world war" with sticks and stones? I like the original quote better:
- Albert Einstein, in an interview with Alfred Werner, Liberal Judaism 16 (April-May 1949), Einstein Archive 30-1104, as sourced in The New Quotable Einstein by Alice Calaprice (2005), p. 173
- Differing versions of such a statement are attributed to conversations as early as 1948 (e.g. The Rotarian, 72 (6), June 1948, p. 9: "I don't know. But I can tell you what they'll use in the fourth. They'll use rocks!"). Another variant ("I do not know with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones") is attributed to an unidentified letter to Harry S. Truman in "The culture of Einstein" by Alex Johnson, MSNBC, (18 April 2005). However, prior to 1948 very similar quotes were attributed in various articles to an unnamed army lieutenant, as discussed at Quote Investigator : "The Futuristic Weapons of WW3 Are Unknown, But WW4 Will Be Fought With Stones and Spears". The earliest found was from “Quote and Unquote: Raising ‘Alarmist’ Cry Brings a Winchell Reply” by Walter Winchell, in the Wisconsin State Journal (23 September 1946), p. 6, Col. 3. In this article Winchell wrote:
Joe Laitin reports that reporters at Bikini were questioning an army lieutenant about what weapons would be used in the next war.“I dunno,” he said, “but in the war after the next war, sure as Hell, they’ll be using spears!”
- Albert Einstein, in an interview with Alfred Werner, Liberal Judaism 16 (April-May 1949), Einstein Archive 30-1104, as sourced in The New Quotable Einstein by Alice Calaprice (2005), p. 173
Quote:You selectively discount the nuclear effects. Many persist for decades, and are highly dangerous in minute quantities. I remember the Strontium 90 concern in the '50s, and that was due solely to testing.
I fully acknowledge that it would be horrible beyond imagining to have a nuclear war, it just wouldn't be "The End of Everything!". What point are you trying to make, other than that you remember the 50s?