01-28-2017, 08:34 AM
(01-28-2017, 07:47 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:(01-28-2017, 03:34 AM)Galen Wrote:(01-27-2017, 06:30 PM)taramarie Wrote: and when i say infringe on others rights i mean other Americans rights. Say in the case of the religious baker who did not want to serve gays. That is what i mean. But dismiss me if you want. I know what i stand for.
A libertarian, other than Gary Johnson, would say that was his right to choose who he does business with. I would say he is being stupid but again libertarians in general don't see any particular need to protect the stupid from themselves. Customers can also choose to boycott this baker over the issue and libertarians wouldn't have any particular problem with that either.
Now, I would disagree that Gary Johnson is the only libertarian who is not a bigot. It is possible to believe in the financial notion of unencumbered free markets and the political principle of small non-interfering government without being a bigot. In this, I believe Galen should speak for himself.
You really don't understand do you? Libertarianism recognizes the right of free association which also means that people have the right to choose who they don't associate with. There is no double think involved here. It is simply not the government's place to tell people who they may or may not associate with. If people truly are bigoted then no amount of external force will change this. Indeed, it will create resentment that will eventually express itself in a violent manner most likely.
Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard. -- H.L. Mencken
If one rejects laissez faire on account of man's fallibility and moral weakness, one must for the same reason also reject every kind of government action. -- Ludwig von Mises
If one rejects laissez faire on account of man's fallibility and moral weakness, one must for the same reason also reject every kind of government action. -- Ludwig von Mises