01-29-2017, 03:19 AM
(01-29-2017, 02:57 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:(01-29-2017, 02:12 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote:(01-29-2017, 01:44 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:You're home is private property. You have the right to decide who enters your home. The right to decide who you're willing to conduct business with in a private setting. The right to decide who you're willing to do work for in a private setting as well. BTW, you have the right to think/believe something is wrong as well.(01-28-2017, 02:56 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote: Do you discriminate? Have you ever engaged in discrimination and the use of discrimination yourself? I've been posting and dealing with blue discrimination for years so please give me a straight answer. If you can't, I'm going to answer for you and you're not going to like what I'm going have to say about you and the blues in general. Hint. I don't view a group of blues who choose/prefer to hang out with other blues on a internet forum as being abnormal. It's no more abnormal than a group of blacks who prefer to hang out and talk with blacks in school before classes start or a group of football players or athletes sitting together during lunch period or after school.
I do not provide goods or services to the public. That being the case, I never ever deny goods or services to minorities.
You seem to be confusing the ability to chose one's friends with refusing to provide goods and services to minorities. I've no problem with friendships being formed based on culture, gender, social class, religion, etc... I have real problems when these are used as an excuse to deny goods and services.
Followers of many political systems declare assorted rights to exist. Libertarians are one of many such systems to declare their own set of rights. What ought to be remembered, however, is that the founding fathers who wrote the US Constitution followed Enlightenment values, not libertarian. Libertarians declaring rights to exist is generally cute but harmless. Children of the Enlightenment declaring rights to exist quite often find that the law is on their side.
The key under modern law is whether one is providing goods or services to the public. If you are providing goods or services to the public in one's home, one's home has become a public place. I've got friends running a game store that is struggling enough that they sleep at the store. That their place of business is also their home does not mean they are free to discriminate.
Actually up until the mid-twentieth century it was understood that people have the right choose what do to with their property and whom they might choose to do business with. I would recommend Conceived in Liberty by Murray Rothbard which is a very good history of Colonial America through to the early Federal period. It was actually very well received by historians at the time an well worth your time to read.
The modern liberal bears very little resemblance to the Classical Liberals who really wouldn't have much problem with the Libertarian point of view. They would libertarianism as a continuation of classical liberal intellectual thought.
Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard. -- H.L. Mencken
If one rejects laissez faire on account of man's fallibility and moral weakness, one must for the same reason also reject every kind of government action. -- Ludwig von Mises
If one rejects laissez faire on account of man's fallibility and moral weakness, one must for the same reason also reject every kind of government action. -- Ludwig von Mises