02-01-2017, 03:39 AM
(01-31-2017, 07:45 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:(01-31-2017, 05:08 PM)Odin Wrote:Do you value you're property rights? Hint: You don't need to actually own property to actually have property rights in America. I agree that there are clueless people who don't own any property who are clueless enough to vote away their own property rights and support the idea of a progressive government seizing other peoples property as long as they believe that they'll receive a healthy slice of the proceeds. The progressives don't seem to grasp the truth in regards to how bad they would end being decimated by the American society. How did the Democratic party allow itself to get so far out of whack with the values of American society? How large of a social context does America represent to you? I'd say 65,000,000 for sure and 68,000,000 million who are uncertain about their loyalties at the moment.(01-30-2017, 07:24 PM)Mikebert Wrote:(01-29-2017, 02:12 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote: You're home is private property. You have the right to decide who enters your home. The right to decide who you're willing to conduct business with in a private setting. The right to decide who you're willing to do work for in a private setting as well. BTW, you have the right to think/believe something is wrong as well.
These rights are limited and always have been. For example the police can enter your home with a warrant. It is a crime to conducting business with certain people, e.g. selling liquor to a minor or knowingly sell weapons to terrorists.
Libertarians have a poor grasp of the truth that property rights are creations of society and only exist in a social context.
Do people have a stake in property rights if they do not own the property? Sure. If you are a tenant, then you want your landlord to have some security of ownership of the property that you lease.
Does the common man have a stake in class interests of people who treat him like livestock at best and vermin at worst, as in a feudal system? Certainly not!
Democrats won the larger number of votes for President in 2016. But we now have a dictator who sees the common man as livestock at best and vermin at worst -- and his Party, which has a near monopoly on political power in America, largely concurs.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.