(02-15-2017, 03:07 AM)pbrower2a Wrote: The Axis lost the war because of
(1) American and British soldiers were more likely to survive their wounds and return to battle due to penicillin that the Axis powers did not have.
(2) British mastery of cryptography (Enigma) that allowed them to respond to just about any German maneuver and exploit any temporary weaknesses that the Germans had in battle.
(3) Axis brutality, including atrocities. The Nazis and Japanese militarists never had real peace in any occupied country, facing dangerous partisan movements against them everywhere. The British and Americans had no such problem even in Italy, a recent enemy of the United States and Britain.
(4) The Americans had huge amounts of productivity safe from air raids. Vehicles, munitions, weapons, and foodstuffs might have risked attack at sea
(5) The Americans and British had more complete control of their economies, putting an end to practically all luxury production very quickly. Germany and Japan operated what is best called 'racketeer economies'.
(6) The Allies were much better than the Axis powers at propaganda. The Jews who dominated American radio and cinema (they really did back then) could put propaganda even into such a cinematic masterpiece as Casablanca. Those Jews had everything to lose, and they knew it. They wanted any ethnic and religious divides rendered harmless, and they could change the message quickly -- for example, as the Allies took over Italy. Wartime Japanese and Nazi propaganda films were so ham-handed that the Allies could change the narration slightly and do some montage, and make them exceedingly offensive.
(7) The Americans, British, and Soviets had the good Jewish scientists and engineers. The Nazis murdered or expelled people who could have been very useful to a non-racist German war machine as entrepreneurs, scientists, engineers, physicians, and attorneys.
(8) Axis espionage was utterly incompetent even in avoiding capture. The British quickly caught all German spies and gave them the choice to cooperate or die... and most chose to live. Hitler was convinced that the Cross-Channel assault would beat the Pas de Calais, exactly as his spies were telling him, instead of at Normandy. The Allies did everything possible to create and exploit that belief. In contrast, the Third Reich was riddled with Allied agents even in the Gestapo.
-- yeah but the alternate universe in question is the one where we sat out WW2. So you can eliminate 4, 5, & @ least part of 6. Hollywood may or may not have been churning out propaganda flicks, but Patton charging up the ltalian boot would not have happened. The ltalian military would of continued fighting on that front, allowing the Germans to continue to put their resources into the Eastern Front. Perhaps Stalin would ultimately prevail, or perhaps the 2 countries would agree to a ceasefire & go back to their non-aggression pact after Stalin got a taste of perfected German technology. The point here is a matter of time. Would the war have stretched out long enough for the Germans to have had the time to perfect their cutting edge weapons.
Re:1- if we had sat out the war there would of been no soldiers to get wounded & receive penicillin to begin with
Btw, sulpha drugs were developed in Germany so they had those
Re: 3- the longer the war went on the more partisians & other ppl would have been slaughtered, enableing the Germans to tighten their iron fists around Europe. Would there have been a D-day to liberate Europe if Eisenhower wasn't in charge of the war planning it (D-day was his baby) & ordering its execution? Maybe, but not in 1944, if ever.
Re:7- maybe, but they weren't working on the kinds of stuff the German scientists were working on. For instance, we had prop planes, the Germans had jets. And had we sat out the war, Einstein, et al would not have been working on the Bomb, which is what won the war for us. Ps, after the war we got around 200 of those German scientists to work for us courtesy Operation Paperclip
I'll concede 2 & 8, but again, it's about time. If we had sat out WW2 would the Germans have had the time to perfect & deploy their cutting edge weaponry
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