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Are Some Haters Of Government Sensing The Looming Regeneracy?
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(03-16-2017, 10:44 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: I’m used to taking the label of ‘Whig’.  I have my arrow of progress.  I favor democracy, human rights and equality.  I see what advancing technology has done for us, but look to change society to adapt to the new environment technology gives us.  I look at the ‘make America great again’ slogan, and note that the time of America’s greatness was the peak of the New Deal and Borrow and Spend liberalism.  There is a pride in being an American, and a Whig.  America was indeed great, until about Nixon’s time when the optimism and energy that created the greatness burned out.

But in doing all that, we stepped on people, we and similar European cultures.  There were black slaves.  There were Native Americans taken from the woods and planted in the deserts.  There were Arabs living on top of a lot of oil, and the West grew rich and powerful on that oil, while the locals grew to hate us.

I find it awfully easy to understand any hatred and violence aimed in our direction.  We took so much.

I also hear slogans like ‘America First’.  We seized a prominent place in the world and are striving to keep it.  I see people waving Nazi and Confederate flags, expressing pride in the horrific past.  And those who were down, and make no mistake many of them are still down, should not be helped.  If one tries in any way to make amends for an unspeakable past, one is accused of betraying one’s race.  

I am not pleased with this.  As proud as I am of how Jefferson’s self evident truths brought something truly new out of the tyranny of the Agricultural Age, we got there walking all over people.  We are striving still to walk over them more.

Too many are excessively fond of our privileged place in the world, have become totally accustomed to this place, and will apply all sorts of upside down double think to excuse their efforts to maintain their privileged place.

I find it all to easy to understand the hate coming from the cultures exploited, still exploited.  It’s not harder to understand those wallowing in the wealth and the privilege.  They are so used to it.  Their arrogant belief in their exalted place in the world is deeply ingrained, unquestionable.  Yes, it’s values locked in.  Folks can look in their fancy gilt mirrors and not see themselves.

There’s a fuse burning.  My instinct is to throw water on it, not gasoline.  Being into turning theory, that’s probably the wrong answer.  There will likely need to be an explosion.

But there is that niggling arrow of progress.  Come the crisis, when the problems become too deep to be ignored, the solutions tend towards working for the common good, towards equality, towards democracy, towards inclusiveness.  I accuse others often enough of being values locked.  Me too.  I have that silly stubborn faith in Jefferson’s self evident truths.  When the crisis comes, I remain dubious that shutting the doors so one’s own cultural group can keep its privileged place in the world will be the answer.
I've yet to see a liberal Democrat who'd I'd be willing to place my life on line or sacrifice something of great personal value to save. I will also add, I've yet to see a liberal Democrat who'd I trust with my life or anything great of personal value or anything important to me. I say screw the Democrats and screw them big time. You better be smart enough to realize if we end up fighting with groups of ISIS here because of liberal politics, the Democratic party and all its stupidity will come to an abrupt end. How much are your political values worth to you, blues in general and everyone else here? Blue values, as I've seen them, ain't worth a shit to me or anyone else who isn't emotionally tied to them. I understand that blues place a ton of value on themselves and their beliefs and whatever values that they claim to represent for reasons that I don't understand or relate too. I assume it has something to do with their degree's or job titles or possibly spending too much time listening/taking in the beliefs of their loving blue parents or their supportive blue peers. How many Americans want to live in a liberal blue can't do/say shit culture controlled by PC labeling? Can you bitch about anything other than conservatives/reds/Republicans/libertarians in Blue America? Can you bitch about a nasty group of blacks who reside in Blue America? Can you bitch about having to many illegal aliens to support in Blue America? Can you openly bitch about anything liberal without concerns about themselves? Can you protest against stupid liberal policies in Blue America? We can bitch anything and anyone or any group in Red America. It doesn't matter who you are in Red America, Red Americans can bitch about you in public and in private (face to face). Reds don't care as much about race, class or gender as the blues seem too. No free passes in Red America. We stuck a towel in the mouths of the Evangelical's. As it turned out, the Republican voters aren't as heavily into religion as the liberal's seemed to believe.
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The Wistful Whig - by Bob Butler 54 - 03-16-2017, 10:44 PM
RE: The Wistful Whig - by Classic-Xer - 03-17-2017, 01:14 AM
RE: The Wistful Whig - by pbrower2a - 03-17-2017, 11:51 AM
RE: The Wistful Whig - by Eric the Green - 03-17-2017, 02:39 AM
RE: The Wistful Whig - by beechnut79 - 03-17-2017, 11:22 AM

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