03-20-2017, 05:34 PM
(03-20-2017, 07:18 AM)Odin Wrote:(03-19-2017, 03:54 PM)Kinser79 Wrote: Let us assume that it is cyicism. Have you ever stopped to consider that there may be a reason for that cynicism? A lot of governmental programs don't accomplish what they set out to do. Many make the problem worse, and some are just plain stupid.
Then you find out what went wrong and try something else, you don't just throw up your hands and go "might as well not try", what kind of weak-minded defeatist attitude is that???
(03-19-2017, 03:54 PM)Kinser79 Wrote: Despite being accused of being a Libertarian all the time on this board I still think there is a place for government in the US. I just think that places is Tallahassee, or Bismark or Jefferson City and not Washington DC.
That works fine for large and populous states, or for states that are small but densely populated or where the vast majority of the population is concentrated in one metropolitan area; but in a lot of the more rural red states the tax base just isn't there and federal help is needed to keep things from going to shit.
And if you have seen North Dakota state government you would rather have Washington running things than that bunch of morons, loons, and crooks in Bismarck.
1. Let us suppose we agree (not that we necessarily do), who do you think is more likely to respond to X isn't working lets try Y? The slow moving lumbering Federal Government who has difficulty passing a budget or a State Government which is forced to be responsive to the people? I'd put my money on the states.
2. Never been to North Dakota, don't care to--I hear the place is cold so it isn't relevant to Kinser's interests. That said lets take a look at Florida. We have crooks, loons and morons in our state government too. Yet I'd still trust Tallahassee over Washington any day. It is far easier to remove crooks, loons, and morons from the state house than it is from the Capitol. Also we have more frequent election cycles so...
3. Federalism works for all states, not just large states or densely populated states. Florida happens to be both. By and large the problems the states encounter in the small states and less densely populated states is one of unfunded federal mandates (IE the federal government sticking its nose where it doesn't belong). This is a problem for states like Mississippi, Alabama, Indiana and Wyoming.
It really is all mathematics.
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