The Atlantic: Is Trump Dragging Down the European Far-Right?

[Kinser79]

(03-26-2017, 07:42 AM)pbrower2a Wrote:

(03-20-2017, 03:25 PM)Kinser79 Wrote:

Quote:1.  The Dutch have a proportional representative government that allows for multi-party systems.

Also a parliamentary system which requires that people act responsibly to be attractive as coalition partners. That's not how we have things. Our Parties are preset coalitions.

Quote:2.   Everyone in the (mainstream media)  was wrong about the US election.  I find it fascinating though that HRC had the money, the press and (Hollywood) on her side and she still lost.

Some of the moneyed elites were scared of him -- but once President, Donald Trump sold out the common man to get their favor. The common man who voted for President Trump has been had, and knows it, unless "deplorable". He was seen as a demagogue, but he has proved useful to the most rapacious elements in American life by standing for economic hustles, for tax cuts on behalf of the Master Class, against the environment, and (soon enough, I predict) against unions.

Quote:3.  The (Democrats)  have been losing seats and states since 2010.  Not really a surprise there.

I can't predict how unpopular President Trump will be in November 2008 -- but all House seats are up for grabs. An unpopular President and an unpopular Congress creates a "Throw the bums out" climate. This time it more likely hurts the Republican Party. I expect that pattern to be as reliable with Trump as with Obama.

Quote:4.  The left still has yet to demonstrate that Donald Trump is racially, or religiously bigoted.  Indeed, I don't think they can, cause if he were they would have "exposed" it by now.

He is doing an excellent job of proving that himself. He needs no help from 'the Left'.

1.  Not necessarily.  The VVD can choose to coalition with the PVV and allow some of Wilders' agenda through, or they can coalition with the far left and try and block it--but doing so is repugnant to their center-right base.  There is a third option, attempting to rule without a majority which will result in a no-confidence vote and the Dutch going back to the polls.

I do not think the US Parties have permanent coalitions.  There are no permanent enemies, and no permanent allies--only permanent interests.  Seriously dude read the Alinsky.

2.  What unions?  Globalism has eviscerated them far more than anything Trump in his wildest wettest Robber Barron dreams could ever do.  And that assumes that you view the President as a Snidely Whiplash figure.

The common man expects him to work on the trade deals, save what manufacturing we can and manage the collapse of the empire.  He can only fail if he does nothing--since it looks like he's doing things he's not failed yet.

3.  I'm going to assume you mean 2018--otherwise you're a decade behind (but that would explain most of your posts).

No Obama's problem is that the attitude was so one sided and so deep.  Furthermore it should be noted that Obama was and still is relatively popular as president.  Popularity and effectiveness are two different things.  So we should consider if we want a President who is popular or a president who is effective.

If the choice is a do-nothing popular president and an effective ogre I'll take the ogre thanks.  For the record Trump is no ogre--he's just a New Yorker so he only seems abrasive to those whose egos are easily bruised.

4.  I've yet to see that.  I'll tell you what I do see--one side is obsessed over what race someone is, what their genitals are, and who they sleep with.  I'll give you a hint which side that is.  It isn't the right (unless you're expressly talking about old ass social conservative boomers who have one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel).