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Who are you voting for in 2016?
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(05-08-2016, 10:01 PM)Kinser79 Wrote: Assuming that Isis remains a problem bombing the shit out of their oil production facilities should be a top priority. Hit them where they eat. I actually think getting together with the Russians on this may be a good idea.  Putin gets his Assad regime client state, ISIS gets crushed problem solved.  That of course requires a POTUS and S.o.State that isn't antagonistic to Russia's other concerns.

The situation we're currently in does put us in between a rock and a hard place. So you're saying that Trump can solve the Middle Eastern situation once and for all by giving Syria's control to Assad and fight ISIS? Because clearly you have to sacrifice one to get the other. I wish we could solve both by imposing a new government in Syria and getting rid of ISIS, but that might require a complete occupation of Syria and Iraq, and I don't know if we want that, considering the mess we've been in for decades. Would any of this turn into World War III?

Quote:There isn't much that the President can do about economic inequality.  It doesn't matter if that president is HRC, Donald Trump, or even FDR.  As for building up the commercial infrastructure, you do realize that big business uses said commercial infrastructure, right?  Working on that provides no conflict of interest for the Big-Biz set.  And hell it would even put some people to work immediately and it has to be done anyway.

The President can do something about inequality by regulating the corporations and the banks, so businesses don't get too powerful and make it harder for workers to put themselves in a good situation. That includes enforcing pro-labor laws that allow for collective bargaining rights. Many people distrust unions today, and that may be because of the corporations' influence against the unions.

As for infrastructure, I strongly support it, and I just want someone to support building this infrastructure. Whether that will be funded publically or privately, that will be up to the voters. Either way, it should happen.

Quote:Daddy has been talking about Isolationism since the 1980s, he's been against NAFTA, CAFTA, the TPP and all other so-called trade deals since at least the 1990s.  The man used to pall around with Ross Perot, if you remember what he said about NAFTA--well it happened.

As for bringing back economic equality that can happen by controlling the supply of labor (IE expelling the illegals and enforcing our border laws) and fixing the trade deals that destroyed US manufacturing.

Wouldn't being isolationist mean staying out of diplomatic and military affairs? Is it possible to achieve both? Or are you talking about economic isolation? You did say you wanted Trump to work with Russia and solve the Middle Eastern situation.

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(05-07-2016, 03:43 PM)Kinser79 Wrote: As I've said above, I see a new political divide emerging on the basis of libertarianism-authoritarianism rather then left-right.  Such is probable nature of mature capitalist democracy.

Quote:That may very well happen. I just don't know which party would take which side.

Actually we do already.  The PC Speech Police, the perpetually offended, and the Regressive Left are all on the side of the Democrats.  From the noise made by the right authoritarians they will start fleeing to the Democratic Party.  This will leave the GOP cleansed with only the social libertarians around.  To completely alter the party will take between 4-6 years, two terms of President Trump would be 8, so 2024 could be the start of the 1T, but most likely the last gasps of the 4T.

That's very interesting. So the Democratic Party will be the authoritarian party and the Republican Party would be the libertarian party? What would happen on terms of economics, and party platforms?

And why do you call Trump 'Daddy' anyway? I find that weird.

Another thing, I redirected our conversation about ISIS to a new thread:
http://generational-theory.com/forum/thread-54.html
"We have it in our power to begin the world over again."
—Thomas Paine, Common Sense (1776)

"History doesn't repeat itself, but it often rhymes."
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Who are you voting for in 2016? - by MillsT_98 - 05-07-2016, 12:15 AM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Kinser79 - 05-07-2016, 01:02 AM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Galen - 05-07-2016, 04:19 AM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Mikebert - 06-07-2016, 06:35 AM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Kinser79 - 05-07-2016, 05:41 AM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Galen - 05-07-2016, 07:29 AM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Odin - 05-07-2016, 12:38 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Odin - 05-17-2016, 07:38 AM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Kinser79 - 05-07-2016, 03:43 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Kinser79 - 05-08-2016, 10:01 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by MillsT_98 - 05-10-2016, 11:10 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Kinser79 - 05-11-2016, 01:12 AM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Galen - 05-11-2016, 02:22 AM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Marypoza - 05-11-2016, 07:32 AM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Kinser79 - 05-11-2016, 12:39 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Galen - 05-11-2016, 03:32 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Danilynn - 05-11-2016, 04:09 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Kinser79 - 05-12-2016, 09:53 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Odin - 05-13-2016, 07:25 AM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Kinser79 - 05-13-2016, 07:43 AM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Odin - 05-13-2016, 01:15 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Galen - 05-13-2016, 03:27 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by radind - 05-13-2016, 03:54 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Galen - 05-17-2016, 03:12 AM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Kinser79 - 05-13-2016, 04:45 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Kinser79 - 05-14-2016, 03:10 AM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Odin - 05-14-2016, 12:33 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by TnT - 05-14-2016, 03:01 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Kinser79 - 05-14-2016, 03:21 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by TnT - 05-14-2016, 04:01 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Odin - 05-14-2016, 04:12 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Odin - 05-14-2016, 03:51 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Kinser79 - 05-14-2016, 04:01 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Bronco80 - 05-14-2016, 04:05 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Kinser79 - 05-14-2016, 04:07 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Odin - 05-14-2016, 04:15 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by TnT - 05-14-2016, 04:20 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Kinser79 - 05-14-2016, 04:18 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Kinser79 - 05-14-2016, 04:20 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by TnT - 05-14-2016, 04:26 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Odin - 05-14-2016, 04:29 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by TnT - 05-14-2016, 04:36 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Odin - 05-14-2016, 04:50 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by TnT - 05-14-2016, 04:55 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Odin - 05-14-2016, 04:58 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Odin - 05-14-2016, 04:26 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Kinser79 - 05-14-2016, 04:24 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by TnT - 05-14-2016, 04:31 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by TnT - 05-14-2016, 04:56 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Bronco80 - 05-14-2016, 05:03 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Odin - 05-14-2016, 05:07 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by TnT - 05-14-2016, 05:12 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Odin - 05-14-2016, 05:16 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by TnT - 05-14-2016, 05:32 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Kinser79 - 05-14-2016, 06:03 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Odin - 05-16-2016, 04:26 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Kinser79 - 05-16-2016, 07:54 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Odin - 05-16-2016, 08:16 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Kinser79 - 05-16-2016, 08:55 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Odin - 05-17-2016, 07:36 AM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Galen - 05-17-2016, 12:52 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Mikebert - 06-07-2016, 07:15 AM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Mikebert - 06-07-2016, 07:39 AM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by radind - 06-07-2016, 08:59 AM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Mikebert - 06-08-2016, 05:35 AM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Kinser79 - 05-17-2016, 01:55 PM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Mikebert - 06-09-2016, 06:46 AM
RE: Who are you voting for in 2016? - by Odin - 08-02-2016, 06:48 AM

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