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The French, Coming Apart
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(04-30-2017, 06:43 PM)Warren Dew Wrote: To the contrary, the socialism came first; the name came later, to differentiate the national socialists from the international socialists.

National socialists base their tyranny on the idea that a "nation" is a race, engaged in a struggle for the survival of the fittest race. Socialism is based on the idea of ownership in common. Modern "scientific" socialism is based on peoples' collective ownership of the economic means of production, in a class struggle that transcends national boundaries. Socialism can be democratic, or tyrannical, which is also true of capitalism (based on private ownership).

Quote:That's what national socialism is all about: socialism, but only for nationals. That's what differentiated it from communist internationalism, which wanted to take over the world.

As it turned out, Stalin was interested in "socialism in one country," whereas the Nazis actually started a war to take over the world. Hitler and Mussolini had goals of world conquest from the start, and as their primary purpose and agenda. Communism and socialism seek to "take over the world," but through revolutions and an international movement by the people rather than by international armed conquest. They spread propaganda, and sometimes pursue infiltration and espionage (although less than supposed by reactionaries like McCarthy), rather than sending armies. The conquest of Eastern Europe by Stalin's Soviet Union/Russia was to create a buffer zone against another periodic German invasion.
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The French, Coming Apart - by Dan '82 - 04-23-2017, 07:45 AM
RE: The French, Coming Apart - by beechnut79 - 04-23-2017, 02:43 PM
RE: The French, Coming Apart - by Eric the Green - 04-24-2017, 11:38 AM
RE: The French, Coming Apart - by Warren Dew - 04-24-2017, 04:19 PM
RE: The French, Coming Apart - by David Horn - 04-25-2017, 10:29 AM
RE: The French, Coming Apart - by Warren Dew - 04-25-2017, 02:10 PM
RE: The French, Coming Apart - by beechnut79 - 04-28-2017, 12:27 PM
RE: The French, Coming Apart - by Odin - 04-29-2017, 11:26 AM
RE: The French, Coming Apart - by Warren Dew - 04-30-2017, 12:37 AM
RE: The French, Coming Apart - by Odin - 04-30-2017, 09:47 AM
RE: The French, Coming Apart - by David Horn - 05-01-2017, 03:04 PM
RE: The French, Coming Apart - by Warren Dew - 05-01-2017, 04:59 PM
RE: The French, Coming Apart - by Eric the Green - 05-01-2017, 11:58 AM
RE: The French, Coming Apart - by Odin - 04-29-2017, 11:23 AM
RE: The French, Coming Apart - by Warren Dew - 04-30-2017, 06:43 PM
RE: The French, Coming Apart - by Eric the Green - 05-01-2017, 11:53 AM
RE: The French, Coming Apart - by Odin - 05-02-2017, 04:03 PM
RE: The French, Coming Apart - by pbrower2a - 05-04-2017, 01:59 PM
RE: The French, Coming Apart - by Warren Dew - 05-07-2017, 08:22 PM
RE: The French, Coming Apart - by David Horn - 05-08-2017, 10:12 AM
RE: The French, Coming Apart - by freivolk - 05-09-2017, 03:21 AM
RE: The French, Coming Apart - by David Horn - 05-09-2017, 09:50 AM
RE: The French, Coming Apart - by Eric the Green - 05-07-2017, 06:17 PM
RE: The French, Coming Apart - by Odin - 05-08-2017, 06:50 AM
RE: The French, Coming Apart - by David Horn - 05-08-2017, 10:17 AM
RE: The French, Coming Apart - by The Wonkette - 05-09-2017, 11:33 AM
RE: The French, Coming Apart - by David Horn - 05-09-2017, 03:03 PM
RE: The French, Coming Apart - by pbrower2a - 05-09-2017, 06:51 PM
RE: The French, Coming Apart - by Odin - 06-12-2017, 06:45 AM
RE: The French, Coming Apart - by David Horn - 06-12-2017, 10:51 AM

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