05-09-2017, 03:03 PM
(05-09-2017, 11:33 AM)The Wonkette Wrote:(05-09-2017, 09:50 AM)David Horn Wrote:(05-09-2017, 03:21 AM)freivolk Wrote:(05-08-2017, 10:12 AM)David Horn Wrote:(05-07-2017, 08:22 PM)Warren Dew Wrote: Of course. That's the inevitable result of all forms of socialism.
Explain this to the Scandinavians, They seem to be free and productive ... more so than many so called free-market types.
The scandinavian states are not socialists. They are free market societys with high taxes and a well developed wellfare-state.
Please explain that to Warren Dew. At the moment, I can't think of any truly socialist economies operating in the world. Venezuela and Cuba don't really qualify, and North Korea is a lot of things, but socialist it's not. China is now more capitalist than socialist, but you can argue that they are in the same (similar?) camp with the Scandinavians.
I wasn't aware that China had much of a welfare state. I thought that as capitalism took over, it became for of an each man to himself type of society. I could be mistaken, however.
China is still an emerging economy. Their social welfare program is different than that of a fully developed country. They need to raise the living standards of average Chinese citizens, and growth is their singular focus. You can argue that they've gone too far in that regard, building entire cities that stand empty for lack of residents able to live there. In any case, they are trying something, albeit not what we might try. Check back in 30 years.
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