09-20-2017, 01:10 AM
(09-19-2017, 09:45 PM)Kinser79 Wrote:(09-19-2017, 09:34 PM)Warren Dew Wrote:(09-19-2017, 05:24 PM)pbrower2a Wrote:Quote:As I've said in other threads, burn it down and lets return to a circa 1850 agrarian society; one that simply can't support "government" intrusion like we have today. I would much rather have that and have true freedom than the conveniences of today. As the album title of the Dead Kennedy's said in mockery: "give me convenience, or give me death" - it's become the AmeriKan motto.
Most of us would be serfs if such an economy were to re-appear.
Not in 1850. Serfs could be kept in line when one nobleman with better nutrition and armor, and years of specialized combat training, could take on ten peasants and come out on top. Firearms put an end to that.
Warren, you forget, PBR here desires the "common man" to not own firearms.
Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union were awash in privately-owned firearms. In Nazi Germany, Nazis were strongly urged to own firearms as a sort of civic duty. In the Soviet Union, the Soviet system was lenient about firearms for anyone not in bad standing with the Communist Party
Private ownership of firearms was practically illegal in Britain under arch-conservative Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher. Go figure whether firearms are vital to personal freedom. Where I live, firearms do me some good for culling the deer herds. I have been in two car-deer collisions. In one case the deer struck my car.
Quote:With a unarmed or disarmed population it is far easier to enslave them. But that is really an argument for the individual right to bear arms, not that PBR would ever admit that.
A country in danger of a foreign takeover will wisely make the ownership of firearms practically a civic duty.
Sport hunters, the people whose ownership of firearms is least objectionable to me, are not the 'gun problem'.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.