09-22-2017, 05:16 PM
(09-22-2017, 05:09 PM)Kinser79 Wrote:(09-21-2017, 09:28 AM)David Horn Wrote:(09-20-2017, 08:27 PM)Kinser79 Wrote:(09-20-2017, 05:27 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: Speaking of conservatives -- the Party once associated with political and economic conservatism used to be for small-scale government and against debt. They thought competition adequate for economic justice. They believed in rational thought and expected it to overpower superstition and ignorance because of the advantages of objective learning. There would be room for big as well as small players in the economy. Now the last two 'conservative' Presidents stand for monopoly, debt as a generator of income and a promoter of consumerism, and heavy involvement of the government in private-public partnerships -- guaranteed profits to gougers with high costs for us all to bear.
The way you speak I'm pretty sure you're stuck in some sort of time warp where the Trump hostile take over of the GOP never happened. Of course this could just be a canned response you've been dishing out since the 90s.
Trump won an unexpected victory, is under investigation for collusion with an adversarial foreign power and has no governing philosophy I can discern. In what way is that a dominant position in the long term? That said, ,the Dems are splashing around and clueless, so we have no solid party at the moment.
Let's see how this plays out. I doubt 2018 will be a tide-turning event, so it's all about 2020.
1. The only people who didn't expect Trump's victory were those who claimed he had no chance at winning. I had been watching him since the mid 00's, and since 2000 since he explored running with the Reform Party of Ross Perot fame. You know, people also said Reagan wouldn't ever be president either. And as much as I don't care much for Reagan he has to be the one President worth a damn in my lifetime whose name isn't Donald John Trump.
2. That investigation is going to yield nothing, and the other party always investigates a president of the opposite party for something. Maybe you have short-term memory loss or something but there were plans afoot to investigate and impeach Bush II, and Obama, and Bill Clinton (who was impeached but nothing came of it). Sounds like business as usual to me on that front.
3. I you think he doesn't have a governing ideology then you've not been paying attention, or worse you've been swallowing whole all the nonsense that the lugenpresse puts out. Trump is governed by two things: American Civic Nationalism, pragmatism.
As for 2020 I expect him winning in a landslide unless he's murdered. I'm far more concerned about the Deep State taking him out like they did with JFK. Fortunately it isn't 1963 anymore and they are less free to act without it coming out thanks to our current level of technology.
Eight Men Out.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.