Signs of a Dying Empire

[David Horn]

(09-22-2017, 05:09 PM)Kinser79 Wrote: 1.  The only people who didn't expect Trump's victory were those who claimed he had no chance at winning.  I had been watching him since the mid 00's, and since 2000 since he explored running with the Reform Party of Ross Perot fame.  You know, people also said Reagan wouldn't ever be president either.  And as much as I don't care much for Reagan he has to be the one President worth a damn in my lifetime whose name isn't Donald John Trump.

Reagan pitched ideas that have been proven wrong, and Trump is doing the same today. Errors self correct over time.

Kinser Wrote:2.  That investigation is going to yield nothing, and the other party always investigates a president of the opposite party for something.  Maybe you have short-term memory loss or something but there were plans afoot to investigate and impeach Bush II, and Obama, and Bill Clinton (who was impeached but nothing came of it).  Sounds like business as usual to me on that front.

Three points here:

1. Bush got a pass, so let's let that one lie
   
2. Clinton was investigated for Whitewater but got nailed for a blow job. I suspect that there was a lot more to Clinton's sex life that had real meat to it, but a consensual blow job? Really?
   
3. Trump, on the other hand, has a trail of potential issues for a non-partisan prosecutor to follow, and expecting them all to lead nowhere is optimism at its finest.
   

Kinser Wrote:3.  I you think he doesn't have a governing ideology then you've not been paying attention, or worse you've been swallowing whole all the nonsense that the lugenpresse puts out.  Trump is governed by two things:  American Civic Nationalism, pragmatism.

I can buy the nationalism meme to an extent, though it seems a lot more self serving than national. Pragmatism, on the other hand, devolves to wins and losses -- not an acceptable basis for a system of government, to borrow from Monty Python.

Kinser Wrote:As for 2020 I expect him winning in a landslide unless he's murdered.  I'm far more concerned about the Deep State taking him out like they did with JFK.  Fortunately it isn't 1963 anymore and they are less free to act without it coming out thanks to our current level of technology.

I don't see Trump lasting the entire 4 years as a more likely possibility, but he's more likely to get pushed out than murdered. As for 2020, don't count on Trump making even a decent showing, if he's even a candidate.