Government can't help, it can only hurt

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(01-30-2018, 09:34 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:

(01-29-2018, 03:23 AM)nebraska Wrote: Live and let live.

Libertarians aren't forcing anyone to be a libertarian. Think for yourself.

Freedom worked for 200 years. Fascism and communism failed.

Those fail to learn from history are doomed to reap at it. The USA wasn't a police state in 1999 or 1969
so why does the USA need to be a police state now?

The government is not your mommy. The government is not your daddy.

Government is not the solution. Government is the problem.

Killing is illegal, but there are still murders.

Airlines are regulated, but there are still airplane crashes.

The government is the cause of almost every problem in the USA.

There is obesity because of food stamps.

The economy is bad because of government regulations and taxes.

There is debt, terrorism, tyranny, and refugees because of US wars.

College is expensive because of government loans.

Medical costs are expensive because of government regulations.

Rent is expensive because of government regulations.

Families are broken because of government welfare.

Illegal immigrants are flooding the country because the government won't patrol the border.

Taxes are high because of government waste, subsidies, wars, welfare, and debt.

Inflation is high because of government money printing.

Should everyone live in a prison because one person might kill someone?

Can't you take some personal responsibility and protect yourself?

Americans used to believe in freedom.

Americans should not be Nazis and Communists.

Those who are embracing tyranny now will be just as guilty as the elites and Gestapo will be when Americans get sent to the gulags, gas chambers, and ovens.

Live and let die. That's my libertarian motto. Think for yourself. Live and let live is for Europeans who are used to being conquered and blue Americans who blurt and rant without a clue as to what they believe in, what they're saying, how stupid they look or sound to who or what group of individuals within their interests and beyond their interests . Live and let live isn't going get rid of groups like Nazi's. Live and let live is going to allow groups like Nazi's to exist, grow and make moves to expand their radius of influence. Live and let live cedes ground for the greater good of survival (pack up and leave to avoid conflict/trouble) or for the avoidance of war (give them this/that, allow this or that, with the hope they'll be satisfied and leave us alone). What is live and let live going to do when it runs of space/ places to withdraw to and places to hide? Is live and let live going to fight, commit mass suicide to spare themselves from misery or raise there hands and hand over their lives and hope for the best? How is live and let live able to take responsibility and protect itself when its belief system doesn't allow it to do much of anything about it and its belief system attracts people who are incapable of doing much of anything about it because violence isn't in their fear/flight nature.

American liberals recognized early enough that for them to live, America would have to destroy Nazism. The German Nazi Party was a syndicate of organized crime that took over a major power and then started conquering other countries.  With Nazism came plunder even to the level of slavery. The Japanese regime had a criminal syndicate, the Black Dragon, as a major player that eventually became a participant in the looting of conquered countries There's nothing liberal about that.

There is little worth dying for, and far less than that worth killing for. The gangster regimes of Nazi Germany and its Japanese partner in crime gave many Americans something to die for and our leaders plenty for which to kill.

Quote:. I see blue live and let live (liberal column) and I see rural Libertarian and I see an anarchist who is being selfish and disruptive. Well dude, I'm a suburban (an old school suburban) who spends the bulk of of his time and his life competing for something or another in a highly competitive world with dog eat dog rules with LOTS of other suburbans and urbans who have been doing the same thing their entire lives. I spend time avoiding car crashes while driving on paved freeways and roads with thousands of other vehicles driven by people who I don't know anything about and thousands of people coming from thousands of places that I don't know either I've navigated through areas of town where gunshots are common and area's where killers exist, gays exist, blacks exist, minorities of all other types exist, whites exist,, racists of all colors exist, creeps exist, perverted exists, crazy exists, irrational exists, violent exists and so forth. I deal with threats all the time. I've dealt with threats my entire life and I'm a survivor.

In view of your other posting, I see you supporting a limited role of government... and "Nebraska" questions whether government has anything to offer except at a diabolical cost. Of course we need free and competitive elections as a check on governmental outrages. We can throw the bums out, which one cannot say of life in Russia or China -- let alone Iran, Syria, North Korea, Cuba, or Venezuela. Of course you know that I expect a more activist role  for government, one operating on the principles of the only ideology that has ever brought lasting happiness: humanism.

Quote:My advice to Ragnarok, limit this dudes posts to only a few posts per day.

Or better yet, ban his naked links. At least he could give us some cause to read his links, such as excerpts.  Yes, I have posted new threads that have gone nowhere, but at the least I offer some excerpts or commentary. He does not seem to respond to any thread that someone else created. He can post a link, so he can cut and paste.