06-24-2016, 12:53 PM
(This post was last modified: 06-24-2016, 04:17 PM by Eric the Green.)
(06-24-2016, 11:41 AM)Ragnarök_62 Wrote: It is so , rebelling against a bunch of globalist elitist pond scum. If nobody believes me, look at this:I don't think I agree. TTIP confers many benefits. A trade deal between countries that are on the same level, is not bad. The TPP is bad because it lowers standards and wages for the nation at the higher level (the USA). Tariffs protect a nation from the harmful results of trading with nations at a different level. Europe and the USA have better standards and wages than Vietnam, Malaysia, etc.
http://ec.europa.eu/trade/policy/in-focu...bout-ttip/
The TTIP is just evil, plain evil.
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comm...79688.html
Quote:Whatever, finally, some country has the balls to reject globalist crap. May the UKIP get some sister party here in the US.
Globalism is only wrong if it is controlled by a few big corporate powers. Otherwise, it's just the fact of life today. Hiding from it is wrong. Nations are basically just lines on a map. We already have a party that includes a USIP; it's called Republican under Donald Trump. A unified Europe in which individual nations still have a lot of control over themselves is the goal here. It prevents war and boosts the economy of a group of nations that lead the world socially and politically. The freedom of movement and commerce was cool; it was liberation from centuries of barriers.
On balance the EU is (or maybe I should say was?) more beneficial than it was oppressive by big banks and corporations. I say mend it, don't end it. I hope Britain learns its lesson and applies for re-entry in a few years, if the union still exists by then. The economic community dating from 1957 probably still will. But by the time it re-applies, England could be shorn of its "united kingdom." The price of this "rebellion" by old geezers will be two broken unions.
The generational breakdown clearly shows that young people thought the union benefited them and was not "the establishment." It was just like here in the USA; older folks are afraid and old-fashioned; deceived by the idea that their identity comes from their nationality or their race. Balderdash; it does not. But the angry old white folks won this election, because they turn out more to vote. Sounds familiar to me; very familiar. The old are keeping the young tied down to the past.
Quote:Scotland may as well grab a tube of lube if they want to join the EU. Their economy will get strip mined just like a whole lot of other "lesser regions".
Greece needs to reform itself. It can't blame Germany for imposing austerity; Germany has limits on what it can give to the other nations in trouble because of the recession CAUSED BY Republicans and neo-liberal Democrats in the USA.
Things are going so badly now, maybe I'll just do what Pete and Roger recommend: "take a glass of that light brown ale, and a purple pill."