Brexit Results

[Ragnarök_62]

Eric the Green[/quote Wrote:  don't think I agree. TTIP confers many benefits. A trade deal between countries that are on the same level, is not bad. The TPP is bad because it lowers standards and wages for the nation at the higher level (the USA). Tariffs protect a nation from the harmful results of trading with nations at a different level. Europe and the USA have better standards and wages than Vietnam, Malaysia, etc.

OK, I'll be nice and agree with you.  As the proud owner of Exxon-Mobil and Monsanto stawks, I have full faith and confidence that such trade agreements will reward me handsomely.  

Some shareholder intelligence to assess the benefits to Rags from such agreements:


http://www.dw.com/en/greenpeace-ttip-mea...a-19231603
http://www.commondreams.org/news/2016/02...-worldwide

So, you see Eric, while I oppose such things on matter of principle, I'm fully willing to double down on share purchases thereof to feather my nest is mass quantities.  So, a mere tossing of principles out the window is A-OK with me.
Capice?

Quote:Globalism is only wrong if it is controlled by a few big corporate powers.

uhhhh yeah.  Those trade agreements seal the deal.

Quote: Otherwise, it's just the fact of life today. Hiding from it is wrong.

I know and I hedge my bets accordingly.

Quote:Nations are basically just lines on a map. We already have a party that includes a USIP; it's called Republican under Donald Trump.

I'd venture to say any ABC candidate qualifies in his/her own way.

Quote: A unified Europe in which individual nations still have a lot of control over themselves is the goal here.

Oh, but if any of those trade agreements passes, that goes down the drain. Did you manage to read that letter from Greece I posted?

Quote:It prevents war and boosts the economy of a group of nations that lead the world socially and politically. The freedom of movement and commerce was cool; it was liberation from centuries of barriers.

Could be. However I'm more interested in how Rags gets even more feathers for his nest! I'm more interested in the dispersal of GMO's into Europe myself. Go Monsanto, baby.

Quote:On balance the EU is (or maybe I should say was?) more beneficial than it was oppressive by big banks and corporations.

Have you ever heard of "bail in" ?

http://www.economist.com/blogs/freeexcha...pean-banks

"All your deposits are, belong to us".

Quote: I say mend it, don't end it. I hope Britain learns its lesson and applies for re-entry in a few years, if the union still exists by then. The economic community dating from 1957 probably still will. But by the time it re-applies, England could be shorn of its "united kingdom." The price of this "rebellion" by old geezers will be two broken unions.

Have you considered that perhaps the era of integration has ended and the era of dissolution has started.
Nothing in this universe is permanent.

Quote:The generational breakdown clearly shows that young people thought the union benefited them and was not "the establishment."

With age comes wisdom, man.

Quote:It was just like here in the USA; older folks are afraid and old-fashioned; deceived by the idea that their identity comes from their nationality or their race. Balderdash; it does not. But the angry old white folks won this election, because they turn out more to vote. Sounds familiar to me; very familiar. The old are keeping the young tied down to the past.

LOL! Rag's identity = US citizen.  From my experience at work, methinks the young are tied down to Ishits.

Quote:Scotland may as well grab a tube of lube if they want to join the EU. Their economy will get strip mined just like a whole lot of other "lesser regions".

Quote:Greece needs to reform itself. It can't blame Germany for imposing austerity; Germany has limits on what it can give to the other nations in trouble because of the recession CAUSED BY Republicans and neo-liberal Democrats in the USA.

1. It's the ECB that's doing the bait and switch.  Cankles Merkel of course a driving force.
2. Pssst.  Eurocrats are the high priests of Neo-liberalism man.  The sooner Eric does a bit of research , the smarter he'll be.

Quote:Things are going so badly now, maybe I'll just do what Pete and Roger recommend: "take a glass of that light brown ale, and a purple pill."

Not really, if TSHTF, my gold stocks will do nicely.

Lyrics Wrote:Money makes me crazy, money makes me insane
Diamonds, silver, gold, and precious steel
I want it all, it's mine to claim
I hold my hands out, I take it all

I want a fistful, fistful of diamonds
I live for the glory and fame
I want a fistful, fistful of diamonds
The millions are calling my name

Fortune come here to me, it's power that rules the game
Seduction of silver and LAWLESS greed
I love it all, I damn the shame
The root of all evil can hear me call

I want a fistful, fistful of diamonds
I live for the glory and fame
I want a fistful, fistful of diamonds
The millions are calling my name

Solitaire, come cast a spell of magic
The smell of green I stack my dollars high
Intoxicating, my mind's wreaking havoc
A famous face, I get what you can't buy

I want a fistful, fistful of diamonds
I live for the glory and fame
I want a fistful, fistful of diamonds
The millions are calling my name

So, either way , it's all awesome.  

TPP, TPIP =  LAWLESS greed.