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(06-25-2016, 04:29 PM)Dan Wrote: As a nationalist, left wing populist this type of response strikes me as overwrought for a few reasons
 
1)     Military dictatorship is not the only alternative to democracy, unelected unaccountable bureaucracy is another alternative and it’s been the form that’s actually been successful in last few decades.  And the opposition to the EU and much of the current populism is a response to that.
2)     It is absurd to claim that the only alternative to multiculturalism, globalism and open borders is fascism. 
3)     I think the globalist; multi-cultural socialism is bound to fail.  Socialism broadly defined requires a high level of social trust and cohesion in order to work while multiculturalism and globalism work best with high levels of individualism.  I view a strong sense of nationalism is an important factor in allowing the masses the challenge the elites.  The few successful left wing parties such as the Scottish National Party and Sinn Féin are also nationalist and populist.

#1: That is the fault of the national governments rejecting a more democratic EU because they see it as a threat to their sovereignty.

#2: The answer to Capitalist Globalism is Socialist Worker Globalism, not xenophobia and fear of the Other.

#3: You are making the mistake of thinking that the Ethno-Linguistic Nation-State is the only proper source of "social trust and cohesion".
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