The "Bad Apples" of each generation

[pbrower2a]

(10-19-2018, 06:53 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:

(10-19-2018, 03:11 PM)pbrower2a Wrote:

(10-19-2018, 11:29 AM)Ghost Wrote: I don't know if threads like this are allowed, but this was something I have been thinking about for a while.

Here are the ones I can think of for each generation starting with the Silents:

Silent Generation:

Idi Amin Dada (b. 1925)
Fidel Castro (b. 1925) ? his legacy is a mixed one
Ervil LeBaron (b. 1925)
Pol Pot (b. 1925)
Che Guevara (b. 1928)
Efrain Rios-Montt (b. 1928) Guatemala dictator
James Earl Ray (b. 1928)
James "Whitey" Bulger (b. 1929)
Imelda Marcos (b. 1929)
Marshall Applewhite (b. 1931)
Jim Jones (b. 1931)
William Luther Pierce (b. 1933)
Charles Manson (b. 1934)
Saddam Hussein (b. 1937)
Haile Mengistu (b. 1937) -- possibly the worst living person His bloody consolidation of power in 1977–1978 is known as the Ethiopian Red Terror
David Lane (b. 1938)
Charles Harrison (b. 1937) -- assassin of a federal judge
Bernie Madoff (b. 1938)
Sheriff Cecil Ray Price (b. 1938) linked to murder of 3 civil rights workers
John Gotti (b. 1939)
Lee Harvey Oswald (b. 1939)
Ali Hassan al-Majid (a/k/a "Chemical Ali") (b. 1940)
Robert Eugene Simmons (b. 1940) -- annihilated his family
Kim Jong-il  (b. 1941)
John Wayne Gacy (b. 1942)
Ted "Unabom" Kaczynski (b. 1942)
Moammar Qaddafi (b. 1942)
Pete Rose (b. 1942) Not allowed. I would not include him. He bet on baseball; not a huge crime.


Baby Boomer:

Bobby Fischer (b. 1943), chess champion and self-hating Jew not allowed
Henry Hill (b. 1943)  mob boss
Dennis "BTK" Rader (b. 1945) Boston Strangler
Ted Bundy (b. 1946)
Edmund Kemper (b. 1948)
Gary "Green River Killer" Ridgway (b. 1949)
David Duke (b. 1950)
James Hodgkinson (b. 1950)
Vladimir Putin (b. 1952)
Harvey Weinstein (b. 1952)
Stephen Paddock (b. 1953)
Mumia abu Jamal (b. 1954)
Shoko Asahara (b. 1955)
Mark David Chapman (b. 1955)
Alton Coleman (b. 1955) -- serial killer
John Hinckley, Jr. (b. 1955)
John Bachtell (b. 1956)
Aileen Wuornos (b. 1956)
Jack Abramoff (b. 1957)
Osama Bin Laden (b. 1957)
Jeffrey Dahmer (b. 1960)
Richard "Night Stalker" Ramirez (b. 1960)
Yolanda Saldivar (b. 1960)

Generation X:

John Allen "DC Sniper"  Mohammed (b. 1961)
Malik Zulu Shabbaz (b. 1966)
Timothy McVeigh (b. 1968)
Mohammed Atta (b. 1968)
Andrew Cunanan (b. 1969)
Paul Nehlen (b. 1969)
Tonya Harding (b. 1970)
Quannel X (b. 1970)
Matthew Hale (b. 1971)
Wade Michael Page (b. 1971)
Kristian "Varg" Vikernes (b. 1973)
Jared Fogle (b. 1977)
Richard Spencer (b. 1978)
Linda Sarsour (b. 1980)
Mark Collett (b. 1980)

Millennial:

Eric Harris (b. 1981)
Dylan Klebold (b. 1981)
Anita Sarkeesian (b. 1983)
Jason Kessler (b. 1983)
Kim Jong-Un (b.1983)
Seung Hui-Cho (b. 1984)
Ross "Silk Road" Ulbricht (b. 1984) drug trafficker and darknet market operator
Nathan Damigo (b. 1986)
Omar Mateen (b. 1986)
Jared Lee Loughner (b. 1988)
Travis Reinking (b. 1989)
Christopher Harper Mercer (b. 1989)
Aaron Hernandez (b. 1989) ?
Inna Shevchenko (b. 1990) not allowed; very fine idealistic champion feminist
Devin Patrick Kelly (b. 1991)
Matthew Heimbach (b. 1991)
Elliot Rodger (b. 1991)
Adam Lanza (b. 1992)
Dylann Roof (b. 1994)
TJ Lane (b. 1994)
Joshua Ryne Goldberg (b. 1995)

Generation Z: (actually Gen Y)

James Alex Fields (b. 1997)
XXXTentacion (b. 1998) not allowed; rapper and hip hop artist; victim of shooting
Nikolas Cruz (b. 1998)
Thomas Rousseau (b. 1998)
Trippie Redd (b. 1999) I don't like rap, but that doesn't make him a bad apple
Anissa Weier (b. 2001)
Morgan Geyser (b. 2002)
Danielle Bregoli (b. 2003) not allowed; female rapper


Gen Z
Kaia James (b. 2006) not allowed; very fine idealistic champion

My additions are in bold.

I am going to take out those who are controversial solely for their politics unless the politician is an extremist or a criminal (which includes things from bribe-taking to genocide). Some people think that Donald Trump is wonderful, so that is controversy.  I am surprised that you have Colin Kaepernick, but not Pete Rose or Tonya Harding, disgraces to their sport. Kaepernick is on your list for his political views which are not disgraces; you could as easily put Lou Whitaker on the list for not honoring the flag, but as a Jehovah's Witness he deserves credit for honoring a tenet of his religious faith that says that saluting a flag is an act of idolatry. Rachel Dolezal seems not to have hurt anyone other than her parents (who may have messed her up), which is more than I can say of Tonya Harding. Louis Farrakhan hasn't caused any deaths, but Marshall Applewhite did in "Heaven's Gate". Besides, as a religious figure, either Jimmy Swaggart, Robert Tilton, Jim Bakker, or any of the priestly abusers of children is far more disgraceful.

GIs have plenty of rogues due to Communism (Ceausescu, Honecker, Kim il-Sung), Nazism (Kaltenbrunner, Mengele, Eichmann, Ilse Koch, Irma Grese, etc.), Apartheid, and garden-variety crime (Clyde Barrow, Bonnie Parker, John Dillinger) and some murderous nutcases (Ed Gein, Jesse Unruh). Sam Bowers, a leader of the violent post-WWII Klan, would be on that list, as would be plenty of dictators.

Oh -- I can't identify the computer scammers who claim to have locked my computer unless I pay to remove their ransomware.

I would definitely add George W Bush to the list (b.1946, Boomer). His decision led directly to the killing of about 400,000 people in an unnecessary war. Some of his neo-con henchmen might also be added.

I would add Anders Breivik, the Norwegian mass murderer who killed 77 people b. 1979, Gen X

The only Jesse Unruh I know is a very effective CA legislative leader who acted as a counter to Ronald Reagan.

I may have the wrong "Unruh", a fellow in New Jersey who did a mass murder.
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Anders Breivink -- the name slipped me. Thank you.

I was tempted to have Mitch McConnell, Dennis Hastert, George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Trump, and Karl Rove among the bad guys. I couldn't quite place which Nixon operative was worst. In their cases one has a cast of dozens of characters. I could have given other corrupt pols like Dan Rostenkowski, "Duke" Cunningham, Rod Blagojevich, and William Jefferson who actually got caught stealing... and I don't mean second base.

Dennis Rader was active in the Wichita, and not the Boston area.

It would be easy to mention high-profile killers like Perry Smith, Richard Hickcock, Gary Gilmore, and the like, but infamy and intensity of evil do not match.

Donald Trump is really bad if he should set in motion a course of events that leads to a dictatorial America.

People should not be on this list for disagreement with one. People would be here for at least disgrace, if not doing something horrible (somehow I missed William Calley, who might have done more than anyone else to discredit American involvement in the Vietnam War than any anti-war activist). I could not fact-check those on this list quickly enough, but I don;t see what is so horrible about Anita Sarkeesian.