10-24-2018, 07:04 AM
(This post was last modified: 10-24-2018, 07:07 AM by Bill the Piper.)
(10-23-2018, 04:01 PM)Ragnarök_62 Wrote: It's the Neocons who are dumb idealists who think we can create democracies at the barrel of the gun. Everything they have touched has turned the shit. They need to just fucking get booted out. They're too damn dangerous to be near any place of power. Note, Trump has a basket full of Neocons in his administration. I really wish the Democrats would run someone like Tulsi Gabbord. She deserves to be the first Woman POTUS instead of that hack , Hillery.
I'll argue for the opposite: it's the non-interventionists who are a misfortune for mankind. The Continent is especially full of them, despite their overall good domestic policies.
Exhibit 1: Hitler. If the British and French forces decided to topple him in 1933, when German military was very weak, there would be no Holocaust. There would still be a war in the 1940s, because Poland the Soviets would have a fight over Belarus and Ukraine. Japan would also grab territory in East Asia. But there's no denial that without Hitler, WW2 wouldn't be so devastating.
Exhibit 2: Decolonisation. The French gave up their colonial empire, creating a power vacuum soon filled by murderous psychopaths like Mobutu, Bocassa or Pol Pot. The 1960s wouldn't be a bloody red decade if they decided to do some nation building. Britain did, and most of former British colonies are democracies.
Exhibit 3: Syria. Were Bush and Blair in power, Assad wouldn't gas people and there would be no ISIS. Obama acted as if he played France in an RPG and Trump does so as well. Trump's admin might be "full of Neocons", but because of the dotard's crush at absolute rulers, they are guaranteed not to act according to their ideology.