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First Turning "purge"
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(10-23-2018, 05:48 AM)Bill the Piper Wrote:
(10-22-2018, 05:35 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: The tendency will emerge anew but use a fresh euphemism for its horrible self.

It was not that horrible... Bill Kristol is a reasonable person. So was Irving Cristol.

but I think it won't come back before the new Idealist generation. When they will rebel against millennials, nothing will annoy a dad born in the 1990s than his daughter declaring herself a neocon.

My thread from another forum: (I'm RoseTylerFan there)

https://www.futuretimeline.net/forum/top...ound-2050/
The prophets of 2050 will almost certainly look down on the right-wing populist movements favoured by millennials, on the sort of politics that gave the world Trump, Brexit and the current Polish government. But they will also despise authoritarian progressivism favoured by the SJWs. If this really happens, we can see a revival of an authentic liberal movement. If Western democracy survives, indignation at tyrannical governments in the Third World could bring neoconservatism back to life.

I agree with those who say neo-con and neo-lib are both utter failures. There's no reason for them to come back to life.

The millennials don't favor right-wing "populism" (which is not populism). They favor the opposite. So that prediction is based on an incorrect assumption. The millennials oppose Brexit and other right wing alt-right nationalism favored by older generations in Europe and America today.

There is no "authoritarian progressivism." Progressivism and social justice are liberal and create genuine freedom. Only neo-liberals think that pro-business policies are policies of "freedom," and that opposing oligarchy is "authoritarian."

If indignation of tyrannical governments rises in the third world against western imperialism, then perhaps neo-cons could rise in The West among those who want to maintain it. But since neo-cons are out of date, so is western imperialism, which is what it is.

A proper balance between values and openness to different needs and people is always needed. Too much fanaticism of any kind is not very healthy in the long run. The needs for local sovereignty and the need for worldwide and regional solutions and connections needs to be balanced; the need for freedom of enterprise and the need for regulation and public interest needs to be balanced. The need for collective security and the need for peaceful behavior among peoples needs to be balanced.
"I close my eyes, and I can see a better day" -- Justin Bieber

Keep the spirit alive;
Eric M
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First Turning "purge" - by Teejay - 10-10-2018, 05:54 AM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by Bill the Piper - 10-10-2018, 07:17 AM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by Teejay - 10-10-2018, 07:42 AM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by Theojm - 10-10-2018, 09:47 AM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by David Horn - 10-10-2018, 10:26 AM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by pbrower2a - 10-10-2018, 10:12 PM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by Eric the Green - 10-10-2018, 06:20 PM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by sbarrera - 10-11-2018, 06:29 AM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by David Horn - 10-11-2018, 11:50 AM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by pbrower2a - 10-11-2018, 11:56 AM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by Theojm - 10-11-2018, 07:01 AM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by David Horn - 10-11-2018, 11:53 AM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by Hintergrund - 11-14-2018, 10:16 AM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by Bill the Piper - 10-22-2018, 07:22 AM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by Ragnarök_62 - 10-22-2018, 12:44 PM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by pbrower2a - 10-22-2018, 05:35 PM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by Bill the Piper - 10-23-2018, 05:48 AM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by Teejay - 10-25-2018, 12:24 AM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by Eric the Green - 10-25-2018, 01:33 AM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by Bill the Piper - 10-25-2018, 05:22 AM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by pbrower2a - 10-25-2018, 06:14 AM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by Bill the Piper - 10-25-2018, 06:25 AM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by Teejay - 10-25-2018, 09:26 AM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by Bill the Piper - 10-25-2018, 10:16 AM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by Eric the Green - 10-26-2018, 12:17 PM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by Eric the Green - 10-26-2018, 12:04 PM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by Eric the Green - 10-27-2018, 01:50 PM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by Marypoza - 11-14-2018, 12:46 PM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by Ragnarök_62 - 11-14-2018, 05:50 PM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by Marypoza - 11-14-2018, 09:51 PM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by Eric the Green - 10-25-2018, 01:19 AM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by Teejay - 10-25-2018, 03:57 AM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by pbrower2a - 10-25-2018, 10:19 AM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by Bill the Piper - 10-25-2018, 10:29 AM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by Teejay - 10-25-2018, 07:31 PM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by Marypoza - 11-14-2018, 10:34 AM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by Eric the Green - 10-26-2018, 12:02 PM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by Bill the Piper - 10-27-2018, 08:12 AM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by David Horn - 10-27-2018, 09:44 AM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by Bill the Piper - 10-27-2018, 08:17 AM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by Eric the Green - 10-27-2018, 12:49 PM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by Bill the Piper - 10-28-2018, 06:40 AM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by Eric the Green - 10-28-2018, 04:36 PM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by Bill the Piper - 10-29-2018, 06:21 AM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by pbrower2a - 10-29-2018, 06:34 PM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by Teejay - 10-30-2018, 01:01 AM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by pbrower2a - 10-30-2018, 08:58 AM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by Eric the Green - 10-29-2018, 06:59 PM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by Bill the Piper - 10-30-2018, 05:43 AM
RE: First Turning "purge" - by Hintergrund - 11-14-2018, 10:25 AM

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