10-27-2018, 08:12 AM
Eric the Green Wrote:It's (neo-con's) other prime objective was to boost Israel in its mission of suppressing the Palestinians.
I don't support the Palestinian movement. But since you operate under a rather difficult framework than mine, I'll enlarge upon my stance.
There is no "right to a nation-state". There is no right to ethnic identity. All that is nationalist tosh. So neither the Israeli nor the Palestinian nationalists are entitled to a state. The ONLY purpose of a state is to provide a good standard of living (conditions for material and emotional well-being) for its inhabitants. Israel does it. Fatah and Hamas don't. Especially, we both know that human beings need some degree of political participation and will demand a democracy once their survival needs are fulfilled. Israel is a democracy, where everyone including Arab-Israelis has a vote. The Palestianian authorities are undemocratic. That's why I support Israel.
Even from a nationalist viewpoint the Palestinian cause is not really valid. There was no notion of "Palestinian nationality" before the 1940s. It was invented by Arab nationalists to claim back the areas where Israel was created. "Arabs" could not claim to have no homeland of their own. There already was Jordan, Syria, Saudi Arabia, etc. The loss of the area called Israel was not a big loss for Arabs as an ethnic group.
See also:
http://markhumphrys.com/palestine.invented.html
Vile nature of the Palestianian regimes is especially demonstrated by the way they indoctrinate and militarise children in order to have more "resistance fighters".
Finally, look at the following diagram:
![[Image: refugees.png]](http://markhumphrys.com/Images/refugees.png)
Why haven't these refugees assimilate since the 1940s? All other groups have. The answer is, the Palestinian regimes indoctrinate generation after generation because otherwise they would have run out of "resistance fighters".
The other side of the coin is that Israel is not competent or moral, since it allows these regimes to exist. They should have created a democratic administration in Gaza and the West Bank. The reason they didn't is probably fear of losing the "uniquely Jewish" character of their country. Which is, sadly, tribalism.