Culture Wars Era - is it moving into its final phase?

[Eric the Green]

(03-02-2019, 09:41 AM)Bill the Piper Wrote: It seems there are THREE camps all over the Western world, and the division combines economical and tribalism/cosmopolitanism polarisation:
-market liberals ("neoliberals") - they are waning but still exist and can sometimes strike back, as they did in France in 2017
-socialists or SJWs
-nationalist-populists, who want to restrict the market to protect national interests

When the 1T begins, I expect the market liberals to be gone, and moderate socialists to win, but before this happen the socialists will integrate some aspects of populism, like Corbyn does. Corbyn could be the British PM in 2022, and I think LePen will win in France.

Racism is IMO a subtype of tribalism, although it's possible to be tribalist without being racist. Judaism is a good example, there are Slavic-looking Jews and Hamitic-looking Jews, but they all regard themselves as descendants of Abraham despite having other, non-Semitic ancestors as well.

It's important to qualify "populist" with "nationalist" as you did in your first instance. Populism just means the power of the people, and properly means the Populist Party of 1892, which meant real policies to give more power to the people, which can only be on the left. Already the Left has been against too much free trade, and the Trumpists have incorporated that policy into their right-wing nationalism and racism. But you can't build an entire governing ideology out of that one issue.

I think you are correct about the 1T, but LePen will never win; Europe is too advanced to fall for this right-wing crap enough to elect its demagogues. America though, is less advanced and has a rigged system.

Quote:Sex-positive movement will come back eventually, possibly during the next Dionysian saeculum scheduled to start about 2100, encouraged by medicine having eliminated all STD. Your dream of a bigger better summer of love may be the reality of 2130 rather than 2050.

I have the benefit of the planetary cycles to tell me that for sure that the late 2040s will bring back a lot of the sixties, and in any case there was a lot of liberation and mysticism in the awakening of 1886-1908 too. So awakenings are never opposites, but always have similar content, especially because Americans are normally so un-awakened in other turnings that the need is always there for one, and those needs can't be repressed and ignored forever, or certainly not for two whole saeculum cycles. No, enjoy your long break from the awakening mindsets that your generation much prefers; you are getting your way now, but your children will rebel again. Your tech materialism rules for the other three turnings, but life and spirit will have its way again and burst through the concrete and the virtual realities again.

The 2046-66 awakening will be unprecedented in the way that it brings back the just-previous awakening; that's what the cycles tell me. If it weren't so, I wouldn't say it, regardless of what my dream is. I remember too, that when I was in the 1T, I know I wasn't happy, but I had no idea of the awakening that was to come, or what what it's mindset would be, and I did not think in the awakening ways yet, but in the same tech-materialist way that you do now. So the Awakening was a fabulous time of discovery for me. And as I say, it's really always available now for everyone. Just tune in to it, if you wanna. I suspect you won't, because unlike me, you are basically happy with where that tech-materialist mindset is taking things, and you don't like what the awakening brought us so much, or how it affected people in your generation and Gen X. So, different generations; different mindset.