07-02-2016, 09:36 AM
(07-01-2016, 07:48 PM)X_4AD_84 Wrote:(07-01-2016, 02:55 PM)The Wonkette Wrote:(07-01-2016, 07:09 AM)Anthony Wrote:Quote:Oh come on, don't be naive. When a nation turns Nazi, the volk never benefit. The volk are dupes when a Nazi putsch happens.
Oh, really? Who benefited in Germany when full employment was achieved by 1936, and outright labor shortages by 1938?
Not my father's relatives, that's to be sure.
Based on our family tree, we know for sure there must have been cousins still in Europe when the 3rd Reich hit. We don't know their names but we know they were there. We know a few survived and one of my uncles eventually connected with a couple of descendants. But I'm pretty sure not all survived. This resurgent Nazi shit is making me experience feelings of rage I've never experienced before. Thoughts similar to ones the characters in Inglorious Basterds were portrayed to have. Since Jews now know how this current movie might end, one cannot expect the generally low level of blow back experienced during the 30s and early 40s. This time around, if Nazis start to appear viable, there will be war in the streets, mark these words.
Based on my family tree, I probably had seventh-or-so cousins who murdered your relatives. Those distant cousins can roast in Hell, and I don't want to know about them.
Another part has the European nation that most successfully protected its Jews from Hitler the only way that it could -- fighting Hitler from September 3, 1939. That, of course, is the UK.
I do genealogy, and I have found prominent figures of British politics, culture, and science as relatives. I do not look for German relatives.
A man born with my mother's not-so-common, but very German maiden name, was a major Hungarian war criminal of German origin. He is likely related, and I have no desire to find out how. I found Sir Winston Churchill, Bertrand Russell, and George Orwell as relatives and was delighted. I have no desire to find Hermann Goering, Joachim von Ribbentrop, or Wilhelm Keitel as a relative.
...I did find Frank and Jesse James, outlaws of the Old West, as relatives. I did not put them in my family tree.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.