skipped an archetype like time before last?

[Eric the Green]

(05-02-2019, 05:31 PM)AspieMillennial Wrote:

(05-02-2019, 04:06 PM)Kinser79 Wrote:

(05-02-2019, 01:39 PM)AspieMillennial Wrote:

(05-02-2019, 01:09 PM)Tim Randal Walker Wrote: A possibility that S & H suggested was that the 4T might be primarily economic, and that Millies might become a mighty work force.  I can sort of see that.  If there is an emphasis on improving the prospects of younger generations.

A weaker version of the Hero role, I think, compared to the Republican or G.I. generations.  Millies may become a water color version of a Civic generation, rather than an oil paint version.

This 4T started early in 2001. This 4T is a mix of many issues at once so it's pretty confusing and adding to the fact that it's far less intense than the last one but also far longer. The 4T lasting until 2028 or 2029 means a 27 or 28 year 4T which would cause a lot of malaise and also a different version of a 1T.

I think you'll find that the hypothesis that the 4T started in 2001 early has been largely dismissed.  That said, I think it started in the 2005-2007 range.  Of course being from the South I think Katrina rather than 9-11 was the major event that showed that the system was unrepairably broken. Before then people could easily argue we could tinker here and tinker there and fix most things.

After Big K and Nawlens Drowning not so much.

The reason I think it's 2001 is because it's largely the event people talk about which changed the course of America. It's the event people talk about "Where were you on 9/11" just like people talked about "Where were you when JFK was assassinated?" The JFK assassination ushered in the 2T just like 9/11 ushered in the 3T. You have to remember that some people were hopeful even in 1929 but that had later vanished. 9/11 took away people's sense of safety and was a loss of innocence.

What innocence? That was lost in the 60s and 70s through Vietnam and Watergate. Those events would never have happened if JFK had not been assassinated.

The JFK assassination ushered in the 2T not because it was a shocking event about which people knew where they were. It was because Johnson was a different sort of president, one who did not have a sense of what the people would stand for, and unable to persuade them in any case.

9-11 was an excuse for more business-as-usual imperialist wars. Peoples' sense of safety was soon restored because no further attacks took place; protective measures were employed. It certainly in no way changed the course of America, as I already pointed out. Any policy changes as a result of 9-11 were reversed once the madman Bush was no longer president.