skipped an archetype like time before last?

[Kinser79]

(05-18-2019, 07:35 PM)Hintergrund Wrote:

(05-15-2019, 01:09 AM)Kinser79 Wrote:

(05-14-2019, 09:34 PM)Hintergrund Wrote:

(04-23-2019, 12:40 AM)pbrower2a Wrote: Does he want to put Fyodor Dostoevsky in the Transcendental Generation?

Would fit his religiousness... then again, he was Russian, their Turnings might work differently. Sure, WW2 killed very many Russians, but it didn't change their political system. The Crisis ending with the Russian Civil War, OTOH...

Russia (and I've been there) is on a different saecular cycle than the West.  It could even be argued that the Orthodox East is a completely different civilization from the West as well.

Agree on both.

(05-15-2019, 01:09 AM)Kinser79 Wrote: The GPW occurred at the start of the 2T of the Soviet Saeculum and was probably why their 2T was so muted.  The majority of the trouble makers were killed off in the Trenches of the Western Front (from the Russian perspective).

Hard to tell... their history doesn't show any tells of it. Why can't the GPW be part of their 1T? Whatever happens in a 1T makes people optimistic that they still can win at the end. That would fit as well.

Generational constellation would require it to be the case.  Unlike say PBR here, I won't try to shoe horn people in their 30s into the Child Generation because Soviet History does not fight my expectation of a particular turning.

I'd say that in the USSR that their 2T had to begin between 1939 and 1944, and I think earlier rather than later.  The point of the 1937 Terror was final consolidation of the 1T.

Given the nature of the war, and the use of penal betalions on the front lines for the most dangerious tasks, I think the Russians eliminated the bulk of the most diruptive elements in the idealist generation which is why as I said the 2T was muted.  And it should have been muted anyway given that the Soviet Saeculum would be a Mega-1T