07-01-2019, 12:54 PM
(This post was last modified: 07-01-2019, 12:59 PM by Eric the Green.)
(07-01-2019, 04:59 AM)Bill the Piper Wrote:(06-27-2019, 03:20 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: That's why I insert a Lemon meme, because Lemons are socialists, or social Democrats, but are still mechanistic, like for example Mikebert here.
It's true Progressivism, dominant form of Leftism in the previous saeculum. Today's Leftists should be called Inclusivists, I made a whole topic about this term on Personality Cafe. Being inclusive is a basic human decency for today's Leftists, the word is really used quite often. I find this name better than SJW, which sounds quite derogatory. Terms like leftism, socialism, etc. come from the Rationalist Age and are no longer adequate to this constantly evolving worldview.
Quote:Lemon greens are green on ecology because of science, while Greens per se are green on ecology because they love nature and think it's alive, and love everything organic.
Exactly. From an Inclusivist perspective, Lemon Progressivism was not inclusive enough because it didn't treat animals with the same sensitivity and care it treated humans. Even Tsiolkovsky, who was a real visionary, considered exterminating all animal species which are not necessary for humans, and trust me I was shocked while reading about this idea.
Quote:The Turquoise meme people, few though they are, fold in with Green. While Greens are post-modern relativists who respect diversity, their key idea is that we are all one people on one planet.
We are, but we should be careful while dealing with people who don't share this commitment to an inclusive global community. Dealing with people like the Taliban, Kim Jong Uhn, or even the bosses in Beijing requires toughness and readiness to use violence because nothing else can stop them. I don't trust the Turquoise precisely because they are too naive to deal with a world which is still full of tyranny and barbarism.
I'm glad we agree on the above, even though I don't like some of the philosophical quotes you gave
Inclusivists is a good word for today's liberals, or Green memers.
I want a Turquoise as my guru, but I'm not sure that the relatively-free portion of humanity is ready for Turquoise national leaders. Gabbard and Williamson might be sort of Tuquoisish.