Generation Z = / = Homelander?

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(09-28-2019, 09:26 AM)David Horn Wrote:

(09-28-2019, 02:25 AM)Bill the Piper Wrote:

(09-20-2019, 03:20 PM)Ghost Wrote: Some say that Generation X will eventually be 1965-1985 and that Generation Y/Millennials will eventually be 1986-2006, but what does a 33-year old guy with a job, a house, and kids have in common with someone who just became a teenager today?

Today. But in 2049, won't the 43-year-old and the 63-year-old view themselves as members of the same generation? Deciding what generation a kid is when e is 13 is way too early. Generation is about your experiences, and a 13-year-old has few.

That's an excellent point, and the sharing of experience is what knits cohorts into a generation.  Let's examine the '65-'85 cohorts, who are already old enough to meet your criterion.  None of those cohorts emerged into a wide-open economy that welcomed them eagerly -- even though they are cohorts with fewer members than the Boomers who preceded them.  So arguing that they are a generation is reasonable, though a bit controversial.  Mine was a quick swipe at commonality.  Doing a deeper dive might identify rifts that are significant or further shared experiences that enhance the bond they share.  One pivot point: technology.  The PC didn't really arrive until ~1982, and didn't really have an impact until the mid to late '80s.  The older cohorts are, to this day, less tech savvy overall, and less connected to tech of all kinds than the more junior members who had this tech particular from an early age or birth.

Indeed. This is coming from an Xer who just recently got a smart phone (and I still don't quite know how to use it).  I only got it because my flip phone died on me.

(11-03-2019, 12:49 PM)Hintergrund Wrote: Four generations have been shaped by their experiences re: big wars:
* Lost: WW1
* G. I.s: WW2
* Silents: Korean War (more though by the fact that they never were shaped by either WW2 or Vietnam)
* Boomers: Vietnam War

Also, I share S&H's view that the cohorts of 1961-64 are X-ers, not Boomers.

(11-03-2019, 09:35 PM)Warren Dew Wrote: So were X shaped by the end of the Cold War?  Or don't they think they were involved in any major wars?

As an Xer and some would argue a near Core Xer if one uses 85 as their cut off (I don't know why, 82 seems about right for me for the last year of Xers--and I'm not going to argue with Aspie here on Cusps because well he's being an Aspie).  We were largely shaped by the end of the Cold War.  The fall of the Berlin Wall was a major event, and not just in Europe.  Also the dissolution of the USSR was a major event.  To a lesser extent the War on Terror has been influential but more as participants than spectators.

Also I once told someone that isn't involved at all with T4T theory about what defines the living generations:

GIs (that still exist):  No memories of the 19th century, probably remember the Crash of 1929.  Almost all men fought in or were in war production during WW2.

Silents:  No memories of the 1920s, or very dim and few extremely childish memories, remember VJ day.

Boomers:  No memories of VJ Day.  Remember the Kennedy Assassination.

Xers:  Don't remember Kennedy, Witnessed the Challenger blow up.  As I did, personally, in Florida, while at school.  Didn't live very far from the Space Coast at the time.

Millenials:  Don't remember Challenger, do remember Iraq War II and Bush's "Mission Accomplished" fiasco.  Also Katrina.  As people on this forum know I'm big on Katrina being a turning changer as opposed to 9-11 or the 09 Wall Street Meltdown.  But that could be regional in nature.

Zed (aka Homlanders):  Don't remember 9-11, or Katrina, or the 09 Wall Street Meltdown.  I'd say the oldest are in the 15-16 year old range excluding cusps.

That said nailing down exact dates for living generations is more difficult than it is for past generations--because they are still alive.