Generation Z = / = Homelander?

[Warren Dew]

(11-06-2019, 10:37 PM)Kinser79 Wrote: From Xers?  No.  I won't speak for other generations but Boomers and Xers have too much bad blood.  We pretty much hate the air you guys breathe.  More so if our parents are Boomers.

I would say that the End of the Cold War wasn't random.  But also that Boomers and the West Generally had very very little to do with it.  Rather Communism collapsed due to its own internal contradictions.

So that's where that meme comes from!  It's wrong, though; Communism had survived much worse, despite its internal contradictions, for 60 years.  The best you can rationally say that, in a reversal of WWII, what mattered wasn't the boomer rank and file in the 1980s, but rather the GI leader, Reagan.

Quote:I'd argue that you're a Jonser Cusper...though on the Boom side of the line.  I don't buy into the idea that people born in the early 60s are boomers.  They simply can't have had any reference for the key touch stones of Boomer culture.  After all what where you 8-9 during Woodstock?  10 for Kent State?

I'm going to sound like a boomer here, but my dad (Silent who embraced the awakening) tried to get the whole family to go to Woodstock, and then when my mom decined, tried to get me to go with him.  I was already a square and wasn't interested in any big hippie rock concert (this was before the event so we didn't know the details of what would happen, not that it would have changed things).  I was very aware of Kent State but bought the argument that bricks could be as deadly as bullets; at 10, my conservative views were not yet very nuanced.  On the other hand, I thought it was silly that my dad drew the line at protesters digging mock bomb craters on his pretty University of Michigan campus.

So yeah, I lived it, even before 10.  The only time I ever got in trouble at school was when I trashed a Humphrey campaign sign on school grounds in 1968, though I wouldn't do that today.  I thought the LBJ 1964 Daisy ad was nonsensical.  Granted I mostly favored Goldwater because I liked his name.

I don't think it's that unusual for kids to be politically aware when things get divisive.  My daughter's school was full of 8 year old Sanders versus Clinton arguments, apparently; my daughter bought my arguments for Cruz, so she could stay above the fray.

Quote:I'm fairly certain that he isn't.  My 20 year old denies being a Millennial (even though I'd argue that he is one).  But he largely views them as being self-absorbed hipster types who he'd probably not piss on if they were on fire.

For my daughter, it all depends on how long the war is delayed.  She might have to graduate college to fight in it, though, and I guess an 11 year delay is unlikely.

Your son is just seeing the difference between early Civics and late Civics, or maybe the Civic equivalent of the hippie/square dichotomy.  GI Presidents favored central control until Reagan turned that around, too.

Quote:Politics has gotten extremely boring and very monochrome lately.  Either all one's arguments are "Revere the God Emperor" or "Orange Man Bad!".

That's certainly true.  I mostly stick to Xenakis' thread, where one can at least watch the crisis developing.  Granted it's a pretty morbid interest.