12-07-2019, 08:37 AM
(12-01-2019, 10:04 AM)David Horn Wrote:(11-30-2019, 05:08 AM)Bill the Piper Wrote:(08-17-2019, 07:03 AM)Mikebert Wrote: Over this same time American began to transform into a police state and in 2016 it elected an apparent caudillo. This transformation of the political and economic environment since 2001 has produced a different political/historical generation that contains members of both the millennial and GenZ cultural generations. This historical generation is the type the S&H model in concerned with.
I predict that Trump won't seem nearly as important as he seems now. If he loses next year, he will be just an episode, the guy who slowed down the Inclusivist and Digital transformations by 4 years.
I wouldn't be so sure. Trump isn't important as a solitary figure, but as the primary symptom of what ails the world. How many others in his mold are moving into prominence? You Brits have one -- two, if you think Jeremy Corbin no better than Boris Johnson. Most of the rest are worse, though less powerful: Bolsonaro in Brazil, Duterte in the Philippines, Erdogan in Turkey, Orban in Hungary to name just a few. Obviously, Putin in Russia and Xi in China are much more dangerous, but isn't that the point? This is a worldwide phenomenon, triggered by the greed of the international wealthy and powerful, and never fully addressed after the 2007-8 financial collapse.
So no, Trump is not unique, but what he represents certainly is an enormous moral and political hazard.
Erik von Kuehnelt Leddihn once called this phenomenon "great old men", and all men he enumerated were Missionary. Likewise all figures you list are boomers. And I agree that Corbyshenko is as bad as BoJo, though he has a better hairdo ;P
So maybe we could divide the 4T into two stages:
-stage 1: Inclusivity vs Market (climax ca 2011 with Occcupy)
-stage 2: Inclusivity vs Nationalism, with the money men siding increasingly with Nationalism