Who are you voting for in 2016?

[Kinser79]

(05-14-2016, 04:26 PM)TnT Wrote: If you dwell on the word "random" I agree.  That can indeed be creepy.

In the case of random come-ons yes it is creepy. However, we are speaking of these people being opposed to come-ons in social situations where they should be expected.

Quote:However, in the normal course of events, with someone with whom you are acquainted, a tasteful compliment is fine.  I try to stay away from comments like "Wow, you've really got a nice tight a**."  On the other hand, "You look really great today." seems to be received well.

Intersectional feminists would call both to be "problematic" and "sexist". In fact they would likely say that the latter is worse because it isn't obvious. That being said, having been told myself that I have "a great ass" I went with it, and simply told the guy I had a boyfriend already. Usually makes the "creep" buzz right off. But honestly I don't even think that person was being creepy but rather expressing normal homosexual interest.

Quote:Christ on a crutch!  Is there no sense of nuance, decorum, in such issues?

No there is not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SA0aKjY8K50

(05-14-2016, 04:31 PM)TnT Wrote: Not to get too competitive, but I think I make rounds in a VERY diverse group of folks.  Very diverse. What do you mean by "intersectional?"

I'm by no means not the one to accuse you of living in a cave. That being said even making the rounds of very diverse groups of people it is likely you will not run into these ideologues. A great number of feminists are in fact well meaning people. Naive to be sure but well meaning.

As to intersectionality it is the concept within feminist ideology that interlocking systems of oppression work on the individual level to be even more oppressive to specific groups of people than other groups of people. Of course this completely ignores the fact that most people do not see themselves as belonging to these groups--in fact do not care about these groups even if they see themselves as belonging to them because most normal people see themselves as individuals first and whatever identity they have second (if at all).

As such an intersectional feminist would say that a black gay trans-woman who is rich is more oppressed than a poor cis straight white male. The fact of the matter is that the black gay trans-woman by virtue of being rich is less oppressed because society operates on a class dynamic that is economic in origin rather than any other identity possible.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersectionality

Quote:I understand that there are fringe groups of feminists and others, but I seldom run into any of them.  One of these folks hiked with a bunch of us on a hike 4-5 years ago, and she simply came across as a pinched, unhappy, self-victimized person.  I've simply NOT run into whole movements of people like her.

They are pinched, unhappy, self-victimized people and yes there are such movements. These criticisms do not arise in a vacuum you know.

I will also be happy to note that like Odin I can find extremists with his views too. In fact there are more of them.