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Fitting Trump into the flow of history
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(05-17-2019, 01:52 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: ...Trump is not going to lose a 45-state landslide, but he projects to lose at least as badly as the elder Bush in 1992.

Δ for reelection of a previously elected incumbent:

Taft
1908: 51.57%
1912: 23.17%
(2.226)

Wilson
1912: 41.84%
1916: 49.24%
1.177

Hoover
1928: 58.21%
1932: 58.21%
(1.468)

FDR
1932: 57.41% 
1936: 60.80% 
1.059

FDR
1936: 60.80% 
1940: 54.74% 
(1.111)

FDR
1940: 54.74% 
1944: 53.39% 
(1.025)

Ike
1952: 55.18% 
1956: 57.37% 
 1.040

Nixon
1968: 43.42% 
1972: 60.67% 
1.397
 
Carter
1976: 50.08% 
1980: 41.01% 
(1.221)

Reagan
1980: 50.75% 
1984: 58.77% 
1.158

GHW Bush
1988: 53.37%
1992: 37.45%
(1.425)

Clinton
1992: 43.01%
1996: 49.24%
1.145

GW Bush
2000: 47.87%
2004: 50.73%
1.059

Obama
2008: 52.93%
2012: 51.06%
(1.037)


Δ for reelection of a previously elected incumbent:

Taft
1908: 51.57%
1912: 23.17%
(2.226)

Wilson
1912: 41.84%
1916: 49.24%
1.177

Hoover
1928: 58.21%
1932: 58.21%
(1.468)

FDR
1932: 57.41% 
1936: 60.80% 
1.059

FDR
1936: 60.80% 
1940: 54.74% 
(1.111)

FDR
1940: 54.74% 
1944: 53.39% 
(1.025)

Ike
1952: 55.18% 
1956: 57.37% 
 1.040

Nixon
1968: 43.42% 
1972: 60.67% 
1.397
 
Carter
1976: 50.08% 
1980: 41.01% 
(1.221)

Reagan
1980: 50.75% 
1984: 58.77% 
1.158

GHW Bush
1988: 53.37%
1992: 37.45%
(1.425)

Clinton
1992: 43.01%
1996: 49.24%
1.145

GW Bush
2000: 47.87%
2004: 50.73%
1.059

Obama
2008: 52.93%
2012: 51.06%
(1.037)

Source: https://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/national.php?year=1944&f=0&off=0&elect=0

OK, the above didn't translate well from my word doc, but the above shows the difference between each incumbent president's election and reelection bids. The last number is the multiplier or divider of the two. Using the Taft example, he got 51.57% in 1909, then 23.17% in 1912. Taft's drop was a divisor of 2.226.


Anyway, if you take out POTUSs effected by economic downturns or whose vote percentage was effected (for good or ill) by substantial facing third party candidates, the differences stay in a fairly narrow range, between a multiplier of 1.100 and a divisor of 1.05.


I haven't seen an election prediction thread. Is there one?

FWIW, I'd compare Trump's reelection bid to that of GW Bush's reelection bid, or 45.93% x 1.059 = 48.63%. The Democrat will get 49.77%, based on the "miscellaneous" vote getting 1.6% of the vote (6.03% divided by 3.75%). Based on the likely variation in that increase on a state by state basis, Trump gets about 294 electoral votes.
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