03-10-2020, 06:00 PM
(03-10-2020, 05:35 PM)Camz Wrote:(03-10-2020, 04:43 PM)Cocoa Puff Wrote:(03-10-2020, 09:19 AM)Camz Wrote: I like that. "Gen Z" being the last cohort or Millennials is way better than it representing 1995-2010 borns. That birth range disgusts me. I agree with the Homeland Gen starting in 2002 or 2003.
I don't like the 1995-2010 definition for Gen Z that they have on Reddit, either. It doesn't make sense. I'd dare to say that there is a much bigger generation gap between 90's babies and 10's babies, than with 80's babies and 00's babies (at least the earlier ones). 1995-2010 and 1997-2012, etc. are the mainstream spans out there defined by mostly demographers, who don't take as time to analyze generations historically, but rather define it just by pop culture, birth year, and demographics. It is similar to Baby Boomers being 1946-1964, when most early 60s babies don't truly fit in with Boomers. I feel like Strauss and Howe is much more accurate. Even if I was to start Gen Z in the 1990's, 1995 seems to early. The earliest would be 1997, but culturally 1999 seems like a better start. Even 2001 would be a better start point than 1995 to me. But, personally I think that it is 2003 or I just go with S&H's 2005 start date.
Probably, from an estimate, the transition from Millennial to Homelander could be extended long, from like 1994ish up until like 2005ish.
I definitely agree, and the funny thing is that r/GenZ is completely divided. 90s babies, early 2000s babies, 2004-6, and 2007 are their own groups who hate each other because of a sense of superiority being born a year before another. People flex on the fact that they remember a time before the iPhone, and that they're "2000s kids" rather than "2010s kids" (and there are debates on what counts as a "2000s kid" which get toxic). It's silly and immature. The point of the sub is to unite Zoomers, like in r/GenX, but its doing the opposite. Probably a mix of typical youth immaturity and 1995-20XX just being a bad birth range.
I actually recently changed my mind of when Gen Z/Homelanders started: 2004. It's because 2003 kids...
-entered K12 when Bush was still president
-in elementary school during the Obama election and RECESSION, so they might remember them, rather than 1925 silents on Black Tuesday
-spent most of K12 before gay marriage was legalized
-entered middle school before Trump announced his campaign
-were in high school during Parkland (so they weren't that young, and processed it differently)
-some can vote in the 2020 election
-"1/6 of the class should be able to vote in 2020" umm,, that's iffy but their classmates should
-Greta Thunberg was born this year, who's a total civic
-involved heavily in March For Our Lives
-turning 20 (coming of age) in 2023, when the crisis will be far from over. there were 25-year-old G.Is in 1945
-in general had more lasts than firsts
They're probably super cuspy, but lean toward Millennial
Not to be too picky, but I think you meant 1925. And as in 2003 babies, do you just mean the HS C/O 2021? Because no one born that year can vote for another four years. Other than that, I agree with you.
When it comes to specific coming of age years, I basically just say ages 16-25 (the age of consent, to drive, get a job to brain being fully developed. Generally, 18 or even 21 is the key "coming-of-age" age.
To me, biological childhood is 3-10 or 11. So "2000s kids" would be from 1993-2002 (January 1, 1993-December 31, 2002 by birth year; late 1992-mid 2002, a.k.a. HS C/O 2011-2020 by high school class; I would barely fit here) and 2010s kids would be 2003-2012. A minor child is like 0-17; in my opinion, a "growing-up" child is 3-20 or 5-18, as in K-12, making the C/O 2021 the ultimate 2010s "kid".
Btw, the r/GenZ subreddit is so toxic, but at times can be interesting, which is why I still have a Reddit account. The Zillennials subreddit isn't that bad, tho.